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"Where Scotland 's worst drivers live"

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  • Started 9 years ago by Stickman
  • Latest reply from slowcoach

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  1. Stickman
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    http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/13894458.Revealed__where_Scotland_s_worst_drivers_live/

    DVLA analysis of "law abiding" motorists shows that 1 in 10 drivers have penalty points.

    One driver has 24 points: why on earth haven't they been banned for life? They've shown that they are completely incapable of obeying the law.

    (For the record: After over 20 years of driving I have never had points and have only had one parking ticket, received as the rear of my car overhung the end of yellow lines - my wheels weren't on the lines. My own fault for not parking carefully).

    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. wee folding bike
    Member

    I'm in ML6 which is one of the post codes listed.

    Full licence since 1984, no points ever.

    Three parking tickets, Church St, Byres Rd and Dalhousie St. The most recent one was 15 years ago. They changed the rules and everyone else in the street got one too.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. crowriver
    Member

    "Official statistics last week showed the death toll on Scotland’s road increased by 16% in Scotland last year. A total of 200 motorists, pedestrians and cyclists were killed in 2014, up from 172 on the year before. "

    That's the real news as far as I can see.

    Depressing.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  4. crowriver
    Member

    In comparison, the homicide rate is down very slightly.

    Accidental deaths up 5%.

    "Between 2013-14 and 2014-15, the number of homicide cases recorded by the police in Scotland decreased by 2% (or 1 case) from 60 to 59."

    http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0048/00486224.pdf

    "There were 1,750 accidental deaths registered in Scotland in 2014, 86 (five per cent) more than in the previous year. "

    "the main causes of accidental deaths are falls (for the elderly) and drugs (for people of perhaps half their age)."

    http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/deaths/accidental-deaths/main-points

    ("Accidental deaths" includes road traffic collisions, which form the third most common cause of death, or 13% of the overall total).

    Posted 9 years ago #

  5. slowcoach
    Member

    Can it be purely co-incidental that road deaths increased at the same time as the number of motor vehicle offences detected by the Police was cut by one-third in 2014-5 from that in 2013-4?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  6. crowriver
    Member

    And yet, according to the report slowcoach posted:

    "Road Traffic
    There were 60,481 road traffic collision related incidents reported to Police Scotland, an increase of 7,006 (13.1%). Incidents related to road traffic offences increased by 1,195 (6.3%)."

    Also, according to the stats table, "Road traffic offence" incidents are up 6.3% year on year. Only "Other transport incidents" are lower: -39.1% (Does this include rail? Shared use paths? Airports? Sea ports?).

    More detail:

    "During 2014/15, 192 people were killed on Scotland’s roads, an increase of 2 (1.1%) from 2013/14. Over the same period, the number of people seriously injured decreased by 83 (4.9%) to 1,627. There was also a reduction of 427 (4.4%) in the number of people slightly injured, down from 9,637 to 9,210.
    During 2014/15 there was an increase of eight (5.3%) in the number of children killed or seriously injured, which included a decrease in child fatalities from eight to seven.
    The number of fatalities amongst pedal cyclists reduced by five (down to seven), when compared to 2013/14. Pedestrians killed increased by ten (from 48 to 58).
    Group 7 offences have decreased by 99,364 (33.6%) to 195,985, compared to 2013/14.
    The number of detections for Group 7 offences has decreased across all major categories compared to 2013/14."

    What on earth is a "Group 7 offence"?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  7. crowriver
    Member

    Okay, search engine reveals that in Scotland, "Group 7 offences" cover all "Motor vehicle offences", i.e.:

    Dangerous driving offences
    Driving carelessly
    Driving motor vehicle while unfit through drink or drugs
    In charge of motor vehicle while unfit through drink/drugs
    Driving mv with blood alcohol content above prescribed limit
    In charge of mv while blood alcohol content above limit
    Failure to provide breath specimen at the roadside
    Failure to provide breath, blood or urine specimen at police station
    Vehicle excise licence offences
    Speeding in restricted areas
    Other speeding offences
    Driver's neglect of traffic directions (not pedestrian crossing)
    Driver's contravention of pedestrian crossing regulations
    Accident offences
    Parking offences
    Failing to provide information to identify driver of motor vehicle
    Using motor vehicle without test certificate
    Motorway traffic offences
    Clearway offences
    Driving while disqualified from holding or obtaining licence
    Driving without a licence (including under age)
    Driving licence, other offences
    Failure to insure against third party risks
    Insure against third party risks, other offences
    Registration or identification mark offences (not lighting)
    Lighting offences, motor vehicle
    Construction and use regulations (other than lighting)
    Motor vehicle records of work (e.g. Tachograph) offences
    Seat belt offences
    Mobile phone offences
    Motor vehicles, other offences

    (Source: http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0046/00464136.xlsx )

    Posted 9 years ago #

  8. slowcoach
    Member

    Crowriver: I take it you were looking at p.11 of the Police Management Information? I should have referred to p.17, which includes the list of main categories, speeding having the highest numbers.
    The Police casualty stats differ from other official road casualty stats, as the Police use April-March rather than Jan-Dec, so the Police have a different change from 2013/4 to 2014/5 than the National Statistics have from 2013 to 2014.
    National Stats refer to "reported road casualties" because they recognise that many casualties (especially slight casualties) haven't been reported.
    Changes in Police procedures may have changed the proportion of reported/unreported casualties so the comparison for slights is open to question.
    I don't know what the Police are referring to as "incidents" "matter", "collision", "offence" and "other". Taxonomy not a strong point here?

    Posted 9 years ago #

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