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Roseburn - Canal link (new Dalry route)

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  • Started 8 years ago by MediumDave
  • Latest reply from neddie

  1. Rosie
    Member

    @Muran B - it's the kind of place that figures in the opening segment of a police procedural drama, when the body is discovered. You don't feel comfortable walking there alone.

    @fimm - I feel for Gorgie & Dalry CC, who did put work into answering the consultation.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    Oooh interesting. That tweet I quoted has been deleted. I wonder who put pressure on G&D CC to do that?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Think it must have been deleted because GDCC has now posted a whole thread -

    https://twitter.com/gdcc_/status/1336259169154904067

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. Stickman
    Member

    Out of interest i rewatched the discussion at the August committee meeting where Cllr Webber expressed her “strong concerns”. They were all addressed (in response to a question by Chas Booth!) by the council officer who explained that the aim was to preserve as many trees as possible, but the final designs would depend on things like the machinery used by the contractor.

    It was all very consensual and there was no sign of the manufactured outrage which has now sprung up.

    Discussion starts around 3hr 05 mins:

    https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/501842

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Also support here -

    https://twitter.com/ashleyannotate/status/1336337102267531269

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. fimm
    Member

    So I reposted the tweet that GDCC removed and they've asked me to remove my tweet because

    We decided to delete it as people were beginning to use it to score political points, which we were not comfortable with.

    I'm inclined not to remove my tweet, but should I respect their wishes?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Normally I’m reluctant to remove stuff, but that seems like a fair reason and they have done a lot of work AND a whole series of tweets reinforcing the case FOR the work needing to be done to create this path that we *all* want.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

  9. ejstubbs
    Member

    @chdot: Haymarket Viaduct still there in early 70s.

    Thanks for clarifying; I wasn't aware how long the bridge had remained in situ after the line had been closed. (First time I came to Edinburgh was in the early 1990s. Too busy gallivanting around on the continent before that, I'm afraid - when I managed to drag myself away from That London.)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. HankChief
    Member

  11. chdot
    Admin

    “Thanks for clarifying“

    Wish I could be more precise.

    At that time large sections of the NEPN were inaccessible (including the Roseburn viaduct - blocked by walls of sleepers - ‘dangerous’ of course).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Wish I could be more precise.

    The best I can do is 'sometime between 1973 and 1983', going by the maps I have to hand. I think the second bridge, over the Duff Street Spur, hung around longer, possibly as recent as 1988.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    I think closer to ‘73 than ‘83

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

  15. fimm
    Member

    Spotted adverts for a meeting last Sunday (6th) for the "Save Sauchiebank Wood Campaign" mentioning HAGSA (Housing And Green Spaces Activism". Anyone ever heard of HAGSA before? The poster said Facebook HAGSAActivists....

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. Morningsider
    Member

    Not heard of them before, but it seems like they are an established Gorgie/Sighthill group:

    https://hagsaactivists.wixsite.com/hagsa

    From a quick swatch at their website they seem quite pro-cycling and pro-cycling infrastructure.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Previously on here

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20345

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. fimm
    Member

    I went to have a look at "Sauchiebank Wood" on Sunday. I didn't try to go in, given the remarks about Japanese Knotweed in the Twitter thread. Looking up at it, I don't see any really old trees - they are mostly the same size. There's a couple of bigger ones on the Sauchiebank end slope which I expect will need to be taken out to make a good, easily accessible ramp. But compared with the trees on the top of Corstorphine Hill (which is where I'd been) they all look pretty young.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. jonty
    Member

    Worth mentioning for clarity that Japanese Knotweed isn't unusually harmful to humans as a plant (unlike Giant Hogweed, though I suppose they might reasonably coexist). Its sole "crime" is being extremely invasive in the UK. So I suppose the signs (if we assume they aren't simply an anti-"trespassing" device) are to prevent you taking out a root fragment on your shoes or something like that.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. ejstubbs
    Member

    I've seen knotweed alongside the ex-railway cycle path from Straiton to Shawfair :(

    Himalayan Balsam is another all too common invasive species that can be a <rule 2> to get rid of. The Hermitage and Blackford Hill are rife with it in summer.

    Sorry, not really on topic.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

  23. fimm
    Member

    Came here to post that link. Seems reasoned - HAGSA are in favour of both trees and bicycles. Just need to make sure their opinions are not misrepresented by persons who are in favour of neither.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. jonty
    Member

    "Sauchiebank Wood is labelled here as ‘Sauchiebank Hanging Gardens’ on the left"

    Another promotion!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    Sauchiebank Arboretum?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. ejstubbs
    Member

    I rather like their proposals for Russell Road, though I did find myself thinking "Hang on, isn't the pavement shared use where it goes under the tram and railway tracks?" But as far as I can see from Google Streetview (updated September this year) no, it's not. I wonder how I'd managed to get that impression? So yes, all the more reason to improve that bit, though whether there's money in the budget to deliver everything they suggest for it is another matter.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    “isn't the pavement shared use where it goes under the tram and railway tracks?“

    Yes, unless??

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. Morningsider
    Member

    Definitely still shared use - I used it earlier today and the signs are still in place.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Always used to be, I can remember when the ramp up to the high path was not quite such a slalom. I can also rem,beer when coming off half way up the hill was good route, now it ends in you being one inch from a tram

    But under the railway, always been shared?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    “But under the railway, always been shared?“

    Clearly not “always”, but a long time.

    A curious piece of infrastructure from the days when ‘no one knew how to do it’.

    But, not as bad as the continuation to Roseburn (which is why many people stick to the road).

    Posted 3 years ago #

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