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Roseburn - Canal link (new Dalry route)

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    I’ve seen lines on maps (yes on verge).

    Think it’s dropped off the ‘sometime/never’ list.

    Bigger questions remain -

    Should WAR have cars?

    Should WAR be THAT wide?

    Why, why, why???

    A: #ThisIsEdinburgh, #It’sSpecial

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. jonty
    Member

    That's particularly frustrating, because:

    - WAR is the only city centre road where active travel is banned, but there's no parallel alternative
    - Despite this, there's a clear desire path the whole way down
    - There are paths both ends
    - And it's more or less just a case of building a pavement on a verge, which must be one of the simplest, most straightforward and least offensive projects a local authority can undertake

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Presumably it’s in the Circulation Plan

    Or not

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “Has there been any plans to have a cycle path continuing alongside the WAR as far as Morrison Crescent“

    Still on on-line map.

    https://cityofedinburgh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=783e530d92994246bcaeb7419437fd78

    No idea if still due to be done this year.

    Update

    Aha

    Knew I’d seen “On hold” somewhere .

    There are two different maps/sets of layers on-line (and other mysteries).

    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?layers=3f775ef3a3c54428a684b6cb12a6497a

    Posted 10 months ago #
  5. bakky
    Member

    Dropped kerb on Russell Rd being reinstated as per post on Save the Roseburn Path anti-tram FB group https://share.cleanshot.com/8QskJY8z

    Posted 10 months ago #
  6. bakky
    Member

    (not sure they can really take credit for it being reinstated, but :)

    Posted 10 months ago #
  7. boothym
    Member

    From the Trams to Granton thread where a Street View link was posted - realised you can get a good view of the works from the West Approach Road either side of the bridges on Russell Road and the railway, taken in June 2023.

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/4P1gPJTMHzPXh9hz8

    The trees being cut down was mentioned in that thread, but I'm not sure how you can do that amount of earthworks for the path and abutments whilst keeping the trees in place? Could've done with a trim anyway given the proximity to the railway.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    “I'm not sure how you can do that amount of earthworks for the path and abutments whilst keeping the trees in place?”

    Possibly true, whether that much was required to make a decent path is another question!

    I may be wrong, I’m assuming the trees/vegetation on the Dalry side too, even though that was just an embankment(?)

    Posted 9 months ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    You know about the Red Bridge.

    Now there’s a BLUE one.

    Exciting!

    The new bridge for the Fountainbridge to Russel Road active travel link has appeared. These sections will cross the "Mid Calder Railway". Not sure if this was delivered in 2 pieces or assembled on site. @RoseburnCycle @SpokesLothian

    https://twitter.com/fountainbridge/status/1769691757308944762

    Photos

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Yep looks like the bridges are going in. Amazing.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    I'm told the green areas do include rain gardens. Important point on maintenance - this is also going to be a big issue on the Canal-Rosebun link where there is a huge amount of planting going on without the revenue allocated to look after it long term

    https://twitter.com/rsmcksg/status/1768962183336001992?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    Don't think the blue bridge is going anywhere soon, until they finish the embankments leading up to the Dalry bridge.

    Unless they're going to truck it around to the other side, but would be tricky to get it up the zigzag slalom they've created. They could maybe crane it over, but ££££

    Posted 8 months ago #
  13. neddie
    Member

    Can’t see this being complete by July. Haven’t seen much progress at all.

    The embankments leading up to the Dalry bridge have gone in. But the blue bridge is still stuck on the wrong side, and no much other progress to be seen…

    Hmmm

    Also, massive traffic jams on Russell Road because drivers can’t possibly imagine “another way” while the Western Approach is closed over the next 6 weeks. Brain-less!

    Posted 6 months ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    Project timeline now saying August 2024 before it's finished

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking/roseburn-union-canal/5

    Cllr Ross McKenzie has asked for an "updated timeline", which sounds ominous

    Posted 6 months ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    #Edinwebcast: #Roseburn-#UnionCanal

    Motion by Cllr @rsmcksg seeks
    "temporary measures for walking, wheeling and cycling in the area, particularly re the crossing of Dundee Street at Gibson Terrace”
    [this crossing was postponed to a later scheme]

    Agreed, with report to next TEC

    https://x.com/spokeslothian/status/1793676052012953945

    Posted 6 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Roseburn - Canal Link Update:

    Completion delayed until Autumn

    Bridge over the Mid Calder railway line to be installed later this month.

    More information here:

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking/roseburn-union-canal

    https://x.com/rsmcksg/status/1798997512663232865

    Posted 6 months ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Project update June 2024 Construction is taking shape with lots of work underway in preparation for the final stages. We expect to finish in autumn 2024. This is slightly later than we previously stated. This is due to other vital work taking place in the area and it taking longer than expected to get plans finalised for the bridge over the Mid Calder railway line.

    Work is progressing well on preparing ground levels and contorus that will transform the landscape of the project route. Drainage is also underway in all there sections of the project.

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking/roseburn-union-canal/5

    Posted 6 months ago #
  18. neddie
    Member

    So could be as late as the 30th November then?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  19. Arellcat
    Moderator

    "The autumn" in local and central government can extend to the end of December in my experience.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    Also meteorologically according to an Acturist I know. Winter Jan-March. Spring April to June - explaining these recent April showers, summer July-sept autumn October to Dec

    Posted 6 months ago #
  21. Morningsider
    Member

    Cycled past this yesterday (felt a tad dowdy on my way to Screwfix, in amongst all the Swifties) and the sheer scale of the project is mind boggling. The size of the switchback and massive concrete retaining walls are truly epic.

    Got me thinking that this project is entirely misconceived. The short section of new segregated path could easily have been extended to Dalry Road, with a toucan crossing leading to an upgraded path behind Lidl and over the WAR. Could have been completed years ago at a fraction of the cost.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    Even simpler would have been to ban through-traffic through the Muirestons and have the whole area as a low-traffic neighbourhood.

    Could've been done over a few days at a fraction of a fraction of the cost

    Posted 5 months ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    I have very mixed views on this.

    That ramp is fairly absurd.

    I was shocked to find the extent of the tree removal (especially after a concerted campaign that seemed to have won some concessions).

    BUT getting a bridge across an active rail line is a significant achievement.

    However this all needs to part of an ambitious rolling programme, which it clearly isn't!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    “Even simpler would have been to ban through-traffic through the Muirestons and have the whole area as a low-traffic neighbourhood.“

    ThisIsEdinburgh, not sure “simpler” is correct!

    But, *could* do that as well…

    Posted 5 months ago #
  25. MediumDave
    Member

    Crash another bus into the bridge. Road closed. Simples.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  26. Dave
    Member

    Russell rd was closed for a year and then separately for six months for work on the main line rail bridge and the new tram bridge. It's a no-brainer that the council should have spent about £5,000 on a filter (under the west approach road with emergency vehicle access maintained?)

    Instead of £17,000,000 building a 400 yard mega-path.

    When you factor in the decision to remove the NEPN as an active travel route, and the decision to stop short of the canal and just deliver people to the back of the cinema complex it gets even more bewildering on a value for money basis.

    It has to be seen in the context of local politicians who want to be able to show that many millions have been spent, but for whom value for money is not relevant and only preserving private motoring space is really a priority.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    Does anyone know when they've scheduled to put the blue bridge in?

    For the disruption / closure of the Carstairs line to install the bridge, it must be on some rail website somewhere...

    Posted 5 months ago #
  28. fimm
    Member

    It has to be seen in the context of local politicians who want to be able to show that many millions have been spent, but for whom value for money is not relevant and only preserving private motoring space is really a priority.

    This.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  29. Morningsider
    Member

    @neddie - checked my usual sources and I can't see anything relevant. I suspect a new date has still to be arranged, assuming the original date was missed.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  30. Frenchy
    Member

    Cllr McKenzie says "later this month": https://x.com/rsmcksg/status/1799007071490445348

    Posted 5 months ago #

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