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Roseburn - Canal link (new Dalry route)

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  1. Stickman
    Member

    Video of the new route:

    https://youtu.be/5aAx9B8pxhE

    Posted 1 week ago #
  2. HankChief
    Member

    Who are thioe idiots riding 2 a breast at 1.15?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Two lost souls in search of a coffee shop? [maybe the kiosk in Murrayfield Oark?]

    Posted 1 week ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Funny you should mention coffee.

    When we saw Santa on the Russell Road ramp we looked forward to the mince pies and maybe coffee.

    Sadly CEC cuts are (already) so deep - no Bike Brek this year - there was nothing on offer.

    HC checked his mobile and saw there was a cafe opposite the Telfer Subway ‘access’ ramp.

    It even seemed to have high on-line ratings for such a small place.

    We found three chairs, a fourth had to be found when we were joined by others.

    Coffee excellent, flapjacks outstanding, LOTS of roll filling and hot food options

    Rosie’s

    Bike racks round corner opposite library.

    Downside, not open at weekends.

    Full CCE recommendation.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Slightly random photos

    11:14

    11:16

    Posted 1 week ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    @Stickman

    GREAT vid

    Makes the ramp to Dundee Street look insignificant as a ‘problem’!

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. fimm
    Member

    Note that Stickman's video includes the statutory White Van blocking the access to the path...

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Wrong thread/not wrong thread

    Stop using money on non-priority areas, Reeves tells ministers, as she launches spending review

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/dec/10/uk-politics-live-rachel-reeves-spending-review-keir-starmer-cyprus

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. DdF
    Member

    @stickman - is it ok to use your video in a spokes report on the opening, thanks? Full credit of course. Also saw it on twitter.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    The pedestrian crossing over the WAR was really reactive when I tried it. It had only just changed back to green for cars when I pressed the button. I expected a long wait, but the lights changed again almost immediately.

    I wonder how long it will be before the "signals team" deprioritise people walking and cycling...?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  11. bakky
    Member

    Crossing was good, though part of the feedback I've sent over includes that it doesn't have an audible signal, which for a crossing with no facing indicator (i.e. no red/green pedestrian/cycle lamps opposite you, only on the button box) isn't ideal if your attention wanders.

    My other comments were condition of the ramped steps from Dundee St (including clearance), the danger posed by the fire exit step at metal ramp to WA (needs painted and reflectors) and the lack of a tiger crossing at Sauchiebank, all of which would have required me pointing them out to our kids if cycling along the route (which is turning out to be a fairly decent way to measure issues).

    Posted 1 week ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    @stickman - is it ok to use your video in a spokes report on the opening, thanks? Full credit of course. Also saw it on twitter.

    It’s not my video - I should have credited above the original twitter poster!

    Posted 1 week ago #
  13. cb
    Member

    "The pedestrian crossing over the WAR was really reactive when I tried it"

    That wasn't my experience. I just missed the green man and had to wait a wee while for the lights to change again (but wasn't desperately long to be honest).

    Posted 1 week ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    “it doesn't have an audible signal, which for a crossing with no facing indicator (i.e. no red/green pedestrian/cycle lamps opposite you, only on the button box) isn't ideal”

    Ah yes, the (lack of) audio. I didn’t register that - was too busy looking for cycle/ped lights as well as ones next to the buttons. (Have added another photo up thread.)

    Bit surprised to see the central strip (compared with older one further east). Presume point is to (try to) slow traffic down, but I’m sure some people using the crossing will wonder if the lights will change and they’ll have to use the (not very wide) ‘reservation’.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  15. neddie
    Member

    lack of a tiger crossing at Sauchiebank

    The ramps of the raised-table at Sauchiebank are also far too shallow/smooth, which allows cars and lorries to continue to turn fast into/out of there.

    The ramps need to be much more abrupt, like the ones on CCWEL at the Wester Coates crossings

    Posted 1 week ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

    had to wait a wee while for the lights to change again

    Maybe the "reactivity" I experienced was because the lights had literally just been switched on, and the "signals team*" hadn't had the chance to "tune" it back to motor priority ?

    *sack the lot of them

    Posted 1 week ago #
  17. DdF
    Member

    @stickman Sorry, I had assumed you were the twitter poster of the video! I've asked the guy on twitter, but not heard back yet.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  18. bakky
    Member

    @DdF if you end up stuck I plan on re-filming both ways on Thursday from Canal through to Roseburn Path for https://www.youtube.com/@EdinburghCycleInfrastructure (I did on the day of the event too but later discovered the chest harness had largely left the camera pointed at my pedals, which is hardly the best vista offered throughout!)

    Posted 1 week ago #
  19. DdF
    Member

    @bakky Thanks - will be happy to include a link to yours also, in the 'resources' section which will be at the end of the article

    Posted 1 week ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    Went past just now. The pedestrian across the WAR took 10 seconds to react (although there was a gap in the traffic, wonder if it senses that?). A traffic cone has been placed on the corner of the step opposite the black bridge. Wonder how long it will stay?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    The 10-year gestation was due to a combination of factors. There were no significant delays caused by objectors, because the path did not involve roadspace reallocation and changes to car-parking provision – which under the government rules at the time could cause literally years of delay, as with CCWEL.

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/2024/12/roseburn-to-almost-canal-opens/

    Posted 1 week ago #
  22. LaidBack
    Member

    Wondered how long it would take so cycled on UA today. Profile is not as steep as I thought it might be. In fact the ramped steps to Dundee Street are steepest section.

    New Roseburn to Canal route

    New Roseburn to Canal route

    Posted 1 week ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh's latest new walking and cycling route officially opens between Roseburn and Union Canal

    https://archive.ph/bi7d3

    ENews

    Posted 1 week ago #
  24. Rosie
    Member

    The Spokes article links to this video, which is worth watching.

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    For bus users, the new crossing over the WAR to Fountainpark is very welcome - replacing that nasty descent to the underpass.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  25. handcyclist
    Member

    In the photo above I'm on my handcycle discussing the issue with the 'ramp' to Dundee street with a couple of people - any ideas who they are?
    The chap on the right is being show a photo of the problem I had, grounding on the ramped steps, and he seemed very keen to look at potential changes to improve the situation ahead of any longer term project. I've sent an email to the Roseburn link generic council address to see if they can smooth out this ramp.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  26. bakky
    Member

    He was around at the tail end of the festivities with Phil Noble and the chap from
    Balfour Beattie who was dressed as Santa - myself and Ali Rattan had sidled up to ask about cycle racks (which are going in shortly when bins do). That puts him at CEC or Balfour Beattie I expect.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  27. gembo
    Member

    The person in the green scarf? I dont think they are council

    Posted 1 week ago #
  28. CycleAlex
    Member

    That's Barry Clarke on the right, the CEC project manager for the route.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  29. Dave
    Member

    I used the route in anger yesterday to go to Screwfix as part of my commute home on the canal.

    On the whole it's ok. They've put really sharp edged concrete block close to the inside of the first turn on the north end descent loop which made me wince. It feels like a huge climb too, compared to riding up Russell Rd but I guess that is what it is.

    The bridge over Dalry has a weird alignment combined with the super high walls, I didn't think there would be a visibility issue but actually you sort of drop in there and have to react suddenly to what's inside.

    You can easily see into the flats because of the effect of scrolling past the holes in the fence. Yet you can't stop and look into Dalry rd like you can on the bridge over the A8 or the red bridge. I don't like the feel of it at all.

    The crossing of the WAR took ETERNITY to change, I was just working up the courage to try and cross independently. Then there's a crazy death lip as you come down the ludicrously tiny new bridge and join the old mess of ramps and stairs.

    Trying to cross Dundee St in the dark to get to get canal was awful.

    How they could justify building this without any onward connection mystifies me. It could simply have been paved to opposite Drysdale Rd and you'd have a nice quiet connection to the canal FFS

    Posted 4 days ago #
  30. bakky
    Member

    I believe Spokes had mentioned the Drysdale connection as a potential extension in future - you're right about that making loads more sense. The other extension originally on the cards was to reach the Roseburn path directly - doubt that will ever happen now though.

    The reason for the amount of climb seems to be the insistence of Network Rail that the blue bridge have (insert measurement) clearance over the overhead wires of the rail line, and also span as wide as it does in case they want to increase the number of tracks (which they never will).

    Great thoughts - worth sending over to roseburntounioncanal@edinburgh.gov.uk as feedback (likely more for future projects - doubt they're gonna re-align that bridge for you now!.

    Posted 4 days ago #

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