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Roseburn - Canal link (new Dalry route)

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  1. gembo
    Member

    I think i will use it of an evening if returning on The NEPN to get to the canal,

    They have maybe changed the traffic light reaction time on the WAR already ?? Agree tight at the Telford Underpass connection and i went on the pavement on the south side to get onto Canal, I feel it starts well and ends poorly.

    Posted 4 days ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    If I didn't want to make a right turn onto Gibson Terrace from Dundee st, I would just get off, walk across the road, and then up to Gibson terrace.

    It certainly could be better but there's two close pedestrian crossings.

    Posted 3 days ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    We spent £17million so as to never inconvenience drivers and so people on bikes could just get off and walk?

    Posted 3 days ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    I didn't say it was a good design, or that it should have been done that way.

    but I don't understand people saying "I'd never let my kids ride on that".

    really? you'd rather put them in the SUV than walk across a road?

    As a local resident, I also appreciate the improved parks and green space access.

    Posted 3 days ago #
  5. MediumDave
    Member

    Well, they haven't actually done anything to Dundee street yet. At least not for Roseburn to Canal.

    Doing that's for "later" - because this is Edinburgh!

    Bar a few niggles I'm reasonably happy with the new route. Absent a council administration willing to upset drivers and build significant quality on-road infra, it's the best we can likely expect and a lot more worthwhile than many previous schemes.

    (I too would like to look out over Dalry Road)

    Posted 3 days ago #
  6. Dave
    Member

    I can't imagine there are many kids being given the independent mobility in the first place before the question arises of how far they should be going on the pavement as the road connection is arguably too low quality.

    IMO this project was very poor value for money, compared with the original Blackford quiet route or school streets in general (e.g. it cost 4x more than SfP which delivered 40km of light segregation)

    But there's no serious road reallocation offering on the table, so at least they did this instead of dialling the A9

    Posted 3 days ago #
  7. cb
    Member

    First post in this thread only nine years ago so this has been a particulalry speedy project for Edinburgh.

    2nd use last night. That step at the bottom of the why-didn't-they-make-it-just-a-little-wider bridge.... If someone hasn't ridden into that already I'd be amazed.

    Posted 3 days ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    @handcyclist - I am reliably informed that the person on the left that you're talking to in that photo that is Deborah Paton, who has taken over Daisy Narayanan's old role at the council.

    Posted 3 days ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Ah yes

    “only nine years”

    Apparently I wrote

    “I'm SHOCKED.

    This is SO sensible.”

    citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15762#post-204725

    Don’t think I’m shocked by anything CEC does/doesn’t do anymore.

    Just inured/disappointed…

    “Could have been more”

    Posted 3 days ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    “I am reliably informed”

    It’s true.

    She has a good track record.

    What she achieves with ‘no money’ remains to be seen.

    We’ll (probably) know on Thursday which Party/ies are notionally in charge of policies/priorities.

    Whether there are any changes may take another nine years to notice…

    Posted 3 days ago #
  11. bakky
    Member

    @frenchy @handcyclist ah spot on, was impressed by Deborah Paton when trawling through December TEC; her plaque at committee was ‘Head of Transport Strategy and Partnerships’ whereas Daisy was ‘Head of Placemaking and Mobility’, but a) I don’t know if those are different and b) job titles are [rule 2] anyway

    To randomly weigh in on Canal link while I’m at it; depending on the time of day you’ll often get a gap to make it to Gibson Terrace if the pedestrian crossing to the right of the ramp to Dundee St is used by someone else; the right turn is still not much fun but it will give you the lane for a bit at least.

    Posted 3 days ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    I often find the right turn from Dundee St into Gibson Tce difficult:

    - there is often a bus at the bus stop which means you can't see oncoming traffic (when waiting on the left in the right-turn-holding-box-segregation). You either have to wait for the bus to clear, or risk get stuck in the middle with drivers not knowing that you are turning right and not simply overtaking the bus.

    - there is always a lot of traffic in both directions, so much so that even if one of the pedestrians goes red and creates a gap, there is no gap in the other direction. I waited a very long time for a gap yesterday.

    - going into the middle to make the right turn (as you would if no segregation) just doesn't feel safe either, as there is likely not a gap in the oncoming traffic, leaving you exposed to rear-ending, or even a head-on. Urrrrgh.

    There simply is no good way to get across.

    I think if I were with kids, I would get them to use the pedestrian crossing directly opposite the Telfer stepped ramp, then cycle on the very narrow pavement (on the canal side of Dundee St) to Gibson Tce. Or, ride contraflow in the bollarded lane...!

    Very very unsatisfactory

    Posted 3 days ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    The Roseburn Link appears to have had an immediate impact on the number of people using the Roseburn path as a north-south link.

    This is the Strava heat map for the last week, so only picks up people recording their journeys with a watch/phone.

    https://x.com/edtiss/status/1868569715976917351

    Posted 2 days ago #

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