Any news on this consultation? It's all gone very quiet, especially if Gavin Corbett was right and it had 95% support.
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Roseburn - Canal link (new Dalry route)
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Posted 8 years ago #
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Planning application 16/01908/PAN has been submitted:
and there is to be another exhibition at St Bride's Orwell Place, 24 May, 3-7pm
Posted 8 years ago # -
Well that's some good news!
Posted 8 years ago # -
The exhibition has been postponed to a date in September, yet to be confirmed.
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I approve this message.
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@Rosie: any reason why - are the team still tied up with work on the other path? Will this cause any more delay?
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"are the team still tied up"
Team losing key member next week.
At least post is due to be filled.
Posted 8 years ago # -
According to correspondence on portal:-
"We write with reference to the above proposed planning application and enclosed Proposal of Application Notice.
Please be advised that the manned Public Event – Drop-In Community Exhibition proposed for the 24th May 2016 has been postponed to the 14th September 2016.
The event will now take place at St. Brides Community Centre on the 14th Sept from 2:30pm-8:00pm.
The reason for rescheduling the Public Consultation event is to enable further development of proposals, namely those in relation to Dalry Community Park."
Later letter cancels 14th Sept as St Brides is booked.
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Murrayfield Community Council will oppose everything:
R Smart reported that he had lodged an objection on behalf of MCC to the proposed cycle route from Roseburn to the canal on the ground that there was no safe walking space beside the route. A member of the public countered that the proposed route is 3 metres wide, the same as the Roseburn cycle path
I assume that it's the NEPN that's being compared here.
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To some extent this is box ticking waffle, but it shows that (bits of) CEC thinks about what it is trying to do -
"
CO7 Edinburgh draws new investment in development and regeneration.
CO19 Attractive Places and Well Maintained – Edinburgh remains an attractive city through the development of high quality buildings and places and the delivery of high standards and maintenance of infrastructure and public realm.
CO23 Well engaged and well informed – Communities and individuals are empowered and supported to improve local outcomes and foster a sense of community.
SO4 Edinburgh's communities are safer and have improved physical and social fabric.
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Posted 8 years ago # -
an objection on behalf of MCC to the proposed cycle route from Roseburn to the canal on the ground that there was no safe walking space beside the route.
Really? No part of it sits in the MCC boundary, it's all in Gorgie/Dalry CC.
I assume MCC are just going full on cycling bananas*.
* Build Absolutely Nowhere And Nothing At all.
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@kaputnik
Not MCC, just one member of MCC, who acted unilaterally. I don't think most of MCC would give many hoots about that route.
Same guy is vehemently opposed to the Roseburn-Leith cycling route on the grounds of design.
He also made the astounding comment that there must be something wrong with a scheme that has caused so much dissent, as a good scheme would of course be approved by everybody.
Posted 8 years ago # -
@Rosie, thanks for the clarity, I assume the "on behalf of" part of the quotation was him acting on his own behalf but trying to appear like he was acting in an official capacity.
Mr Smart can wear the big foam banana hat.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Banana = Ban Anything Near Anywhere Near Anyone no?
I like the thought of a big banana hat...
Posted 8 years ago # -
@WCC that works too, I'm sure he would wear both of those banana hats. Or maybe a banana hat and banana shoes.
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"... must be something wrong with a scheme that has caused so much dissent, as a good scheme would of course be approved by everybody."
That logic is the type of nonsense that should be so easily defeated ("Okay, so can you name a 'good' scheme then?" "[Names something he approves of]" "Ah yes, there were X number of complaints about that scheme, so by your definition it's also a bad scheme. Oh, and I'm complaining about your new Roseburn scheme as well, so that must make it a bad scheme too?") but you know the people spouting such nonsense will not listen to reason.
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I now have the Bananaman theme tune in my head. Thanks kaputnik....
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Mr Smart lives a few doors down from me. He's remarkably ranty. For example some neighbours have replaced a shabby hedge/railings combo with some smart wood fencing, and his only comment is "I hope they paint that so it doesn't stand out so much". Yeah focus on what's important!
Posted 8 years ago # -
I take it Mr Smart is very much looking forward to the giant LCD advertising screen about to go in opposite the Roseburn Bar.
"End of days...", "Hell in a handcart..." etc.
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@kaputnik - it's now going to be less giant than thought, but yes, no-one is happy about it.
Posted 8 years ago # -
@WC: I tried to make that point last night, saying we'd done all the easy win cycle routes and that new schemes were a step change, quoting Andrew Gilligan that if there's no opposition then it's not ambitious enough.
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@Stickman - I don't know if we should be quite so personal here.
I was going to cite pieces of Janet Sadik-Khan's Streetfight about opposition to infrastructure from neighbourhood groups which was eventually passed and then never opposed again but would only get "this is not New York."
It seems that Edinburgh is a city which resembles no other in the known world.
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@Rosie: fair point, I've edited my comment.
Posted 8 years ago # -
this is not New York
I think you're very right - even if we showed the doubters and naysayers the irrefutable success of London's new city centre protected lanes, we'd just get a response of "this is not London".
Seriously, if you showed these sorts of people a picture of the moderately successful and ambitious and semi-proficiently engineered protected lanes betwixt the Innocent and the Meadows you'd get "this is not Newington".
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BANANA - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone
Posted 8 years ago # -
This thread is worth a bump. Anyone heard any progress on this?
Posted 8 years ago # -
I think I was asked about this on another thread
Here is a recent response
Dear Gembo
Thank you for your email regarding the Roseburn to Union Canal Cycle Route.
At the moment, we are still working on the preliminary design for the bridges and structures which form key elements of the route e.g. over Dalry Road and the Mid Calder railway line. This scheme will also require a Major Planning Application, and we currently aim to submit this application in Autumn of this year. As part of this process, we will be holding a further public consultation event in the local area to show the proposals which will be included within the application prior to its submission.
Assuming that planning consent is granted, we are currently looking at financial year 2018/19 for construction, subject to funding.
If you would like any further information on the project, please let me know.
YOurs
A Very Helpful Council Cycling Planning Bod
I have written back asking to be told when the consultation is happening as I will try to supply friendly locals in favour (err, well, us)
Posted 7 years ago # -
Thanks gembo. There wasn't much opposition to this at the original consultation stage. Not one precious parking place is to be stolen, not one inch of road to be filched.
"Subject to funding" though...
Posted 7 years ago # -
here is subsequent stab at timings subject to events
We currently have the public consultation event scheduled for August in our programme, and so are working towards this at the moment. However, if there are any issues with sign-off for the proposed structures, then this may need to be pushed back. We will be widely promoting the consultation event once we have a confirmed date.
I think we will need to come out in force as the politicians in power by august will not be the ones Spokes have cultivated long and hard. And the cost is noticeable. So we should all lobby and support and attend and be happy.
Posted 7 years ago #
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