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Posted 9 years ago #
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Ah. Buses aren't going across, are they?
In my defence, I'm tired.
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(And I was obviously aware of 'us' but there's no danger we're the target audience for the ferry.)
Posted 9 years ago # -
@the boy
Could help assuming connecting bus from park and ride on Fife side and new service into city from the coach parking at Hawes Pier.
If they carry cycles too then problem solved, with a nice bit of extra climbing either side as a bonus!
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Loving the idea of cycling to Rosyth then catching a ferry to South Queensferry to continue on the cycling journey! Yes please!
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If there's a ferry with bikes option I'll come out for a jaunt. Nothing nicer than the ferry hops on the west side of the country.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Only £135,000, would fit plenty of bikes. But need to pick up from Glasgow. Would it be too big for the Forth & Clyde canal?
Posted 9 years ago # -
Have a little ambition mate :)
Posted 9 years ago # -
Clearly Burntisland to Granton is the proper route -
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_a/0_around_edinburgh_-_firth_of_forth_-_ferry_boats_granton.htm
Posted 9 years ago # -
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A PARLIAMENTARY inquiry is to be held into the prolonged closure of the Forth Road Bridge, it emerged yesterday.
The move came shortly after transport minister Derek MacKay admitted that a planned bridge repair five years ago, which was cancelled, would have “replaced” the section where a 20mm crack was spotted last week.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/forth-road-bridge-msps-claim-minister-misled-holyrood-1-3970915
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Radio Scotland just had example of how local business is affected.
Craigie's Farm Shop guy pointed out that business was down. More importantly he has two or three workers that cycle over bridge with cyclescheme bike to work bikes.
So cycle ban has small but significant effect here - Craigies is not really served by public transport.
Of course any 'favouring' of bikes is not possible on the 'inverse pyramid of transport priorities'!
Posted 9 years ago # -
Don't expect this will make much difference -
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Edinburgh Trams has entered into temporary agreement with Stagecoach buses to help alleviate the problems currently being experienced by commuters. From Thursday 9th December Stagecoach will divert their services between Fife and Edinburgh to Ingliston Park & Ride to facilitate transfers to and from Edinburgh Airport.
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http://edinburghtrams.com/news/edinburgh-trams-to-support-forth-road-bridge-effort
Posted 9 years ago # -
More woes (ScotRail on Twitter)
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NEW: Due to a passenger taking ill on a train at #SouthGyle, all services thru here may be delayed. I’ll update again ASAP. ^CT
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UPDATE: Trains are moving again through #SouthGyle station, it’ll take us time to return to normal, thanks for yr patience this morning. ^CT
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Posted 9 years ago # -
Shuttle planes to Leuchars, don't know if the army have kept the runway...
Posted 9 years ago # -
"@west_team
Due to closure of the Forth Road Bridge, parking restrictions are now in place @ South Gyle Road & adjacent streets"
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Torcuil Crichton of the Daily Record
The bridge collapse, if it has done anything, has exposed the glaring inadequacy of Scotland’s public transport system.
Yes, Scotrail have pulled in extra carriages so Scottish commuters can get the sardine tin experience of the crowded south-east, minus the property prices and the milder weather.
There are expanded bus services, a sudden interest in car-sharing schemes and forlorn demands for featherweight cyclists to be allowed to zoom across the Forth (of course they should be).
http://whitehall1212.blogspot.co.uk/2015/12/east-to-west-scotlands-transport-system.html
Posted 9 years ago # -
@Laidback - I got into conversation with one of the delicatessen assistants at Craigie, a young woman who was a very keen cyclist.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Craigie's
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@SpokesLothian: #ForthRoadBridge Hear 2:17:28->https://t.co/PabP80amUy Staff can't cycle to work. Pls write->https://t.co/ZKtf5r4Ws0 https://t.co/H0YH5nFMBZ
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Posted 9 years ago # -
The Lib Dems are doing a survey on the bridge closure:
http://www.northeastfifelibdems.org.uk/forth
It might be worth submitting your views about allowing peds/cyclists etc.
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From Rosie's link:
"So, if there has to be an inquiry it should be into the massive rethink Scotland needs to move dormitory commuters permanently onto public transport and off the roads.Out road addiction shuts our eyes and ears, though not our lungs, to the carmaggedon of pollution and climate change.
Just as in health and in education, it should be possible for a nation of five million to devise public transport policies that match the needs of the country. Big task, no easy answers ... That would require a bit of a political cease-fire to take place, a bit of bridgebuilding if you like. The Forth Road replacement might be falling into the water before we get that."
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I wonder what 'temporary' means?...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-35060879
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Craigie's Farm Shop guy…has two or three workers that cycle over bridge with cyclescheme bike to work bikes.
Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter if they're Cyclescheme bikes or not, because the HMRC rule on qualifying journeys only applies when the bike is in use. At that point the requirement applies for journeys to be 'mainly' riding to work, in entirety or as part of a multi-mode journey.
I wonder what 'temporary' means?
It means that Amey will effect full repairs in 2016 or sometime after that, probably involving replacement of the repaired element and the seven that are fatigued but have not failed. Amey is working on those seven as well, because it's all very well having strain gauges and contact mics attached telling you how quickly something is approaching the point of failure, but that does nothing to stop it failing unless you apply to them the same or similar reinforcement as the one that did fail.
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"Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter if they're Cyclescheme bikes or not, "
Craigie's Farm - their workers indeed are using cyclescheme supplied bikes to get to their work (or not at moment). Was just an illustration of how one bit of policy interacts with another.
In Edinburgh we have lots of 'interested parties' in the area of sustainabilty / public transport. I expect Sestran, Sustrans must be quietly suggesting to transport minister Derek Mackay that this can have a 'good news' outcome sooner rather than later.
With the 'temporary' nature of first repairs we may be looking at a restricted bridge beyond new year. Limited opening of walk and cycleway in morning and evening would balance the needs of the public - plus give security something to do. Would it PR well though - are security up to managing a couple of dozen cyclists on way to work?Posted 9 years ago # -
10:00 train to Dundee (stopping service) surprisingly busy today. I think a lot of people travelling to/from various points in Fife are opting for public transport at the moment.
Posted 9 years ago # -
The cycle convoy scheme could work to deliver fewer coaches hiking round via Kincardine and journey time little changed from normal for coach passengers riding in all the way. Having the ability to walk across does have the benefit of being the fall-back if the trains go awry, to get people over the Forth
Posted 9 years ago # -
After pedestrians get across the bridge a taxi between 5 wouldn't be that expensive to get them into Edinburgh. About £5 per head.
Posted 9 years ago # -
In fact the taxi firms should be pushing for pedestrian access. It's the Festival in winter.
Posted 9 years ago # -
There are so many options that cycling and walking across the bridge open up it's absolutely absurd it's not being pursued with the highest priority.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Evidence that the FRB closure has repercussions throughout Scotland. These notices are everywhere on Dundee University campus...
Posted 9 years ago # -
Mrs M work colleague who lives in South Queensferry says the roads in the town are lined with badly and illegally parked vehicles.
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