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Posted 9 years ago #
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@Bax Yay. :)
I went to sleep a few days ago on this.
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According to that clip, at 1:11 that the west footway is apparently safe for vehicles weighing in excess of two tonnes to use.
A bit of the main cable, the south pier underneath the offending truss end link and some of the main road deck are a live work site. At 0:21 and 0:38 you can see that the east footway was a live car/van park, eventually becoming a live work site at around two minutes when there are some ladders lying around and they've opened a few of the hatches for access to the south tower.
I wasn't expecting them to have to build scaffolding up from the bottom of the tower to reach the underside of the road deck. Hopefully they can use the towers to get to the work area more quickly than being boated across to the bottom and having to climb up every time the weather permits.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"@Forthroadbridge: The whole bridge is a live work site at the moment with both footpaths extremely busy"
I'll bite.
That only leaves four lanes completely empty, then.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"There are so many politically motivated claims and counter-claims and different interpretations of "facts" by politicians without two engineering degrees to rub between them."
As stated, people with helmets and ropes will fix it.
The points scoring is unhelpful, political parties of all colour have had responsibility for the bridge recently. Alex rowley might take a step back to remember oor Lesley (Hinds) was on the board only a few months ago and aparantly receiving letters of warning from senior bridge staff, as were a number of other Labour, and Lib Dem councilors from both sides of the water.
If anything, the apparaent lack of maintenance recomeded by bridge engineers that was actually done was as a result of ignored requests to FETA, and subsequently SCOT GOV. All appear culpable to a degree in my eyes.
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Check out the 1Z series of reporting codes - I note that Scotrail ran an HST to Dundee http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/M54699/2015/12/11/advanced (down)- not in the Working T/T (STP), and the move should be to get bikes carried on trains like this plus the regular (2) HST's to/from Aberdeen (1Exx and 1Sxx) along with the 2 x 1Zxx (STP) trains which appear to be turning back at Cowdenbeath (COW) and Dunfermline (DFE) (odd that they are not stopping at Dunfermline QM (DFL) as this is just a short hike from Halbeath Interchange/P&R.
The HST is an East Coast HST but the revenue allocation (and fares applicable) for this trip will be to Scotrail through the Rail Settlement Plan Ltd allocation and technically set by ORCATS, for this reason the train is operated by Scotrail, as was the extra IC225 trip every night during the Games in 2014. Could not find the ECS or other working to get it back to Edinburgh though.
The Cross Country Voyagers could be good for 5-6 bikes if there is no luggage under the shelf in Coach D - you'll get 2-3 in there plus 3 in the official space (and there is no catering using the former bike space on the train until Edinburgh.
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Engineers are working towards having the Forth Road Bridge open to traffic by the first Monday in January, it has been confirmed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35096668
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There would be a degree of irony if some large multinationals that use the FRB were to be compensated.
*Roads and bridges maintained through general taxation.
*Large multinationals avoid paying taxes, leaving less money available for maintenance
*Large multinationals compensated for result of lack of maintenance, leaving even less in the public pursePosted 9 years ago # -
Is Business Continuity Insurance available for road hauliers?
Posted 9 years ago # -
Originally linked to by Spokes:
Travel survey on the closure of the bridge:
https://leeds.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/forthbridgePosted 9 years ago # -
The Scottish Parliament’s Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee has today launched its call for evidence on its inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the closure of the Forth Road Bridge. Full details on how to contribute to the Committee’s inquiry are listed below.
Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee
Inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the closure of the Forth Road Bridge
Call for evidence
The Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee has agreed to undertake an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the closure of the Forth Road Bridge on 4 December 2015. While the Committee understands that the closure has brought frustration to travellers and significant impact upon many businesses, this work will be focused on the structural defects identified on the Forth Road Bridge and whether these could have been avoided or dealt with differently
Specifically, the remit of the inquiry is:
“To examine the management, monitoring and maintenance of the Forth Road Bridge principally in the 10 year period prior to its closure on public safety grounds in December 2015.”
The Committee will hold a series of oral evidence sessions in January and February 2016 where it will hear from officials and engineers from Transport Scotland and Amey (who were appointed by Transport Scotland to manage and maintain the Forth Road Bridge from June 2015), representatives of the former Forth Estuary Transport Authority (who had previously managed and maintained the Bridge up to June 2015), independent engineering experts and the Minister for Transport and Islands.
Call for written evidence
The Committee is also keen to hear the views of anyone who might be able to comment on the management, monitoring and maintenance of the Forth Road Bridge principally over the past 10 years. You might have been involved with the Forth Road Bridge or have specialist technical knowledge of bridge engineering which may be of assistance to the Committee
In providing your views, you may wish to consider structuring responses around any of the following points:
· the nature and extent of the defect and its impact on the structural integrity of the Forth Road Bridge
· the proposed or actual structural maintenance and repair programmes principally between 2005-2015 and whether the structural defect in the North east tower truss end link could have been avoided; and
· the levels of capital budgets and revenue funding available for structural monitoring, maintenance and repair of the Forth Road Bridge during this same period.
The Committee will take into account all evidence received on the closure of the Forth Road Bridge prior to publishing a report on its findings prior to dissolution of the Scottish Parliament in March 2016. Your views will also help shape the inquiry and feed into oral evidence sessions.
Submitting your views to the Committee
The Committee invites views from any individuals or organisations who feel they may have information relevant to the Committee’s inquiry.
While the Committee appreciates that many people will also have views on other aspects of the Bridge’s closure, such as its economic impact and the transport disruption, it should be noted that any such submissions would fall outwith the scope of this inquiry.
To allow the Committee to take account of any views received, submissions should be sent to the address below, no later than Friday 29 January 2016.
Written submissions should be submitted electronically (preferably in plain text Word format and without graphical borders or headers) to—
ici.committee@scottish.parliament.uk
Written submissions will be made public on the Committee’s webpage. If you do not wish your response to be made public, please contact the clerks to discuss (you may wish to refer to the Parliament’s policy on handling information received in response to calls for evidence).
The Committee welcomes written evidence in English, Gaelic or any other language.
If you have any further questions regarding the Committee’s work on this inquiry, please contact the Committee clerking team at the above e-mail address or on 0131 348 5244.
Follow the Committee on Twitter @SP_ICIcom
Posted 9 years ago # -
OMG
Am I the only person who thinks this is ridiculous?
We will spend a blinking fortune on an enquiry and get nothing substantial to demonstrate 'guilt'.
Also - if there was an issue relating to a cover up of maintenance in something as strategic and important as the FRB, surely any engineer worth their salt would have leaked this?
I know I would !!!
Even my employer (boring pensions) has a confidential whistle-blowing line to allow people to relay issues where they are not 100% happy to tell their boss.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Not a cycling question, but can anyone advise? My slightly decrepit (needs to sit down but not legally disabled) father needs to get the train back to Fife from Edinburgh on Friday. Leaving probably mid afternoon. Is it realistic to expect to get a seat from Haymarket during the off-peak time? Or should I take him to Waverley?
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@Nelly, no you are not
@LivD- depends which branch of the Fife circle you talk about.
My understanding is that for the Dunfermline Branch, there are a lot of newly scheduled services where trains start from Haymarket- not everyone knows about them.For the Dalgety Bay-Burntisland branch there are longer trains. Would suggest that you go for the front of the train (moving down the platform ) as fewer people will walk that far... The reverse is true if the train originates from Tweedbank - your father should aim for the rear of the train.
Even if there isn't a seat, you'd like to think that someone would see his need is reater and offer him one.
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The following does not constitute advice:
If I was on a busy train and someone looked like they needed the seat more than me it would be offered up in an instant. I don't *think* I'm massively odd in this.
If someone didn't look like they needed the seat more than me, but asked then likewise. I might be more unusual on this one.
Posted 9 years ago # -
My experience is that the morning peak trains still have plenty seats at South Gyle so you should be fine off peak at Haymarket.
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@LivD - trains are slightly quieter mid afternoon but I'd start the journey at Waverley to ensure you get a seat.
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@LivD - Don't know where in Fife you are headed, but the following trains *start* from Haymarket:
Haymarket - Inverkeithing: 0746, 1211, 1450, 1617
Haymarket – South Gyle – Dalmeny – Inverkeithing: 0854, 1641
Haymarket - Inverkeithing - Dunfermline Town: 0918, 1012, 1047, 1121, 1320
Haymarket – South Gyle – Inverkeithing – Rosyth: 1809
Haymarket - Dunfermline Town - Cowdenbeath: 1249
Haymarket - Inverkeithing, Dunfermline Town - Cowdenbeath: 1418Posted 9 years ago # -
Thanks all. He's going to Leuchars so the extra trains won't apply, but obviously help to ease the pressure on the Dundee trains.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"
However, the popularity of train travel has placed a severe strain on ScotRail’s fleet, made worse by the closure of the Forth Road Bridge leading to trains across the Forth Bridge being lengthened by switching carriages from other routes.
Worst hit have been Glasgow-Falkirk Grahamston services, which have been replaced by buses.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/harry-potter-turns-scots-train-route-into-success-1-3980809
Posted 9 years ago # -
Decided to do the 'super-commute' today from my home in Dunf to St Andrew Sq, via Kincardine. Have to say, despite the early start I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Opting to avoid the bulk of the A985 for obvious reasons I went through town at the viaduct, cut through The Glen and out via Crossford/Cairneyhill. Carried on through B9037 via Torryburn and then Culross. I was expecting to experience a large volume of traffic trying to divert but it was actually very quiet.
Rode across the bridge, then left pass Powfowlis Manor via NCN76. Something quite therapeutic about cycling in the pitch black with no road noise!
Had a bit of a detour at the A904 Boness Road in Grangemouth where the road is still blocked at the refinery despite the TRO for this running out in October.
Carried on through Boness then left towards SQ watching the stunning sunrise as I went before rejoining my usual commuting route at Scotstoun Ave.
All in all took me 2h43m to cover 45 miles and arrived in the office at 9am.
The 'tour de forth' is one of my favorite training rides so knowing the N76 routes was definitely helpful. Not quite one for doing every day but if the bridge work carries on past the 4th Jan I may just do it again!
Posted 9 years ago # -
Chapeau!
Posted 9 years ago # -
That's impressive deckard. You've shocked a few of the drivers here :-)
Posted 9 years ago # -
Good effort. I'm highly jealous having seen my December mileage plummet to somewhere close to a single normal commute.
Hopefully I'll get a pass to go for a ride over Christmas.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"
No trains will run across the Forth Bridge on Christmas Day or Boxing Day despite the road bridge closure.
The rail crossing has provided the only direct link between Fife and Edinburgh during the shutdown, and is being used by thousands of extra passengers.
However, rail chiefs said the two-day closure would not be lifted because of major engineering work in Edinburgh, and far more disruption would be caused if that was postponed until next year.
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Posted 9 years ago # -
You never know, there could well be a good news announcement that the bridge will open at midnight for cars and cycle path users, so I'm pumping up my bike tyres for tomorrow just in case.
Posted 9 years ago # -
I suspect Billy has some insider info here....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-35160296Posted 9 years ago # -
Just announced on Radio Scotland that the bridge will be open to all traffic excluding HGVs from 06:00 tomorrow.
Cheers
ColinPosted 9 years ago #
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