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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Politicians seem to like visiting local industries, so get them to visit some local bicycle-related industries

    Ruth, in a tank, outside Laidback?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    Perhaps a green/camo velomobile.

    A recumbent tandem for the SNP dragging one of those triangular-section advertising things, so they can still have plenty of glossy logos and posters on display? A velomobile made up to look like a helicopter, perhaps.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "ActivelyTravel On Administration?"

    Now there's an idea.

    Just wish I could think of something more 'understandable' than ActiveTravel or neater than Walking and Cycling.

    If we are 'stuck' with AT, then need to highlight the walking/pedestrian part - and the public transport connection - with things like pedestrian crossings to get to bus stops, pavements to Haymarket etc.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    Humanity on Heidyins.
    Vote with your Feet?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Gettingthereunderyourownsteamers on Government?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    me on twitter:

    Out of 5 #sp16 leaflets just arrived, only @JimEadieSNP @theSNP mentions #ActiveTravel and investment in #cycling
    #walkcyclevote

    5 #sp16 leaflets thru the door just now. only @Ruth_E_Davidson @scotTories fails to mention her party …

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Rob
    Member

    In any cycling-vs-motoring debate, cyclists will be seen as the minority. I think sometimes we're too keen to push cycling when we should instead leverage our pedestrian majority.

    For example, instead of arguing for cycle lanes on George Street, we could argue for removing parking based on a minority creating a hostile environment for the majority (count shoppers vs parked cars). Once the parking and associated traffic is gone, adding a cycle lane is a much smaller request.

    I guess what I'm saying is, in the current climate we can't expect politicians to be clammering for the cyclist vote, promising cycle lanes everywhere, etc. But if we vote for the ones who understand that cars are the problem (rather than lack of space for them), conditions will improve for cycling.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Just been listening to Gordon Brewer's RScot politics show.

    Patrick Harvie talked the most general sense (as opposed to party bickering).

    On the NHS he talked about 'capturing the food chain from big business' and 'getting more activity' (think he said the AT words).

    Brewer moved things on swiftly having already set his agenda by saying 'I'm sure you all want to spend billions more on the NHS'.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    It would be a brave politician indeed who went on the record saying "actually, we'd like to spend less on the NHS in the medium-long term because we'd like to invest more in the short-term keeping people more active, healthy and less exposed to incapacitating pollutants".

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "It would be a brave politician indeed who went on the record saying "

    Yes.

    But WHY would it??

    Apart from 'normality mindset'?

    Clearly there are 'vested interests' you don't challenge (unless you are Jeremy Hunt).

    The ScotTory on, Jackson Carlaw, didn't even go for 'save money, slash the middle management' - but he was confident enough to tackle some interest groups by saying 'some small hospitals will have to close'.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "

    What was once Labour’s safest constituency in Edinburgh has arguably become the SNP’s biggest stronghold.

    But Kenny MacAskill, who won Edinburgh Eastern back in 2007, has retired from the parliament.

    And Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale is her party’s candidate here, making it a high-profile contest.

    The new SNP candidate is Ash Denham, former head of campaigns for left-wing think tank Common Weal.

    She says she is getting a “very warm reception” from voters. “It’s looking very positive”.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/holyrood-2016-dugdale-leads-bid-to-reclaim-edinburgh-eastern-1-4114495

    That will be an interesting one in view of -

    "

    SNP voters hold considerably more left wing views than supporters of the Labour party, according to academic research which analysed the online political choices of more than 10,000 people.

    "

    https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/politics/snp-voters-much-left-wing-labour/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    has arguably become the SNP’s biggest stronghold.

    I take it they mean "in Edinburgh"? The respected incumbent vs. upstart thing didn't help Sheila Gilmore at the last election (Edinburgh East and not Eastern, I know...).

    Kenny Mackaskill took the seat on 37.4% with a big swing. He kept it in 2011 on 47.4% with a big swing. Tommy Sheppard got 49.2% at the GE on a mahoosive swing. It would certainly be a shockeroonie if Kez reversed that particular trajectory.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Morningsider
    Member

    chdot - Jackson Carlaw - you wouldn't buy a used car off him. Mainly because the two used car firms he ran went bust.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    "SNP voters hold considerably more left wing views than supporters of the Labour party, according to academic research which analysed the online political choices of more than 10,000 people."

    Hm. The examples listed are university tuition fees and increased disability benefits. Not sure that can really create a "left wing" politics on its own. SNP decidedly "right wing" when it comes to economy, tax, transport policy. Whether their voters are any more "left wing" on these issues is not revealed by the article, but given that the results are based upon a self-selecting group rather than representative sample, I think they need to be treated with suitable scepticism.

    Here's the site they used for this headline:

    http://www.scotvote16.com/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Word back from the streets in Fife (I think Cara hilton's seat at the mo) undecided voter said she was away to watch Gary tank commander interviews and use that to make up her mind how to vote.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. SRD
    Moderator

    Cara Hilton's a big support of POP.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

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    Joan McAlpine (@JoanMcAlpine)
    27/04/2016, 12:56 pm
    Good to join @CyclingDumfries for candidates bike ride #sp16 read about it here

    http://cyclingdumfries.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/so-…

    http://pic.twitter.com/Pg27CWis4J

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. SRD
    Moderator

    Numbers have been updated!

    http://walkcyclevote.scot/where-do-we-stand-in-pictures/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. sallyhinch
    Member

    Meanwhile in Northern Ireland they seem to be having rather more success getting their politicians engaged http://www.cyclinguk.org/blog/nigreenways/northern-ireland-experiencing-cycling-surge

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

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    AnnieslandSNP (@AnnieslandSNP)
    30/04/2016, 5:37 pm
    Fantastic car-convoy through the constituency today! - thanks to all! #BothVotesSNP #ImWithNicola #activeSNP

    http://pic.twitter.com/ozEY9M88At

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. wee folding bike
    Member

    Joan McAlpine (@JoanMcAlpine)
    27/04/2016, 12:56 pm
    Good to join @CyclingDumfries for candidates bike ride #sp16 read about it here

    Brompton M6L with the earlier model of brake levers and the handlebar stubby extension thing.

    Shame she got silver extremities. They should really be black although the Common Wheel reduced the blackness of my S6L by sticking wee hearts on it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Shame she got silver extremities"

    Presume it's her own bike?

    She's the only one in the photo without a helmet.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. wee folding bike
    Member

    I had noticed the millinery but that's a different thread.

    She was married to Pat Kane who doesn't hold a driving licence and can often be seen on the Coatbridge train. He also wrote the foreword to Deep Fried Hillman Imp. I was in the traffic jam following the crash he talks about and saw the remains of the Ford Focus.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deep-Fried-Hillman-Imp-Discussions/dp/1902831306?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

    I think she can drive, I've got a feeling she has mentioned a Mini in her columns.

    Not holding one doesn't seem to stop Mr Kane doing gigs all over the UK but I assume they have roadies and a Tranny.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    Hue and cry have a tranny?

    Pat and Joan fell out big style

    Think I cycled through her constituency yesterday, well saw a poster for her.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. Rosie
    Member

    I've had a rootle through the leaflets dropped through my door.

    The only one that mentions transport is the LibDem one for Hannah Bettsworth, and that is the "Roseburn Cycle Path solution" (ie oppose the route through Roseburn Terrace.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. wee folding bike
    Member

    The tranny is a staple of rock and roll life in Scotland. See Tutti Frutti for example.

    Sparks didn't have one in Glasgow a few years ago. They had a VW Transporter but then Russell and Ronald always followed their own path.

    I didn't see Bad Manners two years ago because their bus broke down on the M6. As a result I have no idea what kind of vehicle is required for Mr Bloodvessel. I would guess it's not small.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Aw you mean a ford transit? I thought the curious blend of left wing politics, fighting siblings and west of Scotland white boy soul had taken another turn.

    I sort of like pat Kane, he writes in a language related to English but with more made up sociology words. Capable musician and there is a slight chance that unlike the majority of the Indy left (-and to be fair most other politicians) he has a dawning realisation of how ridiculous he can he. Though the three women and Patrick Harvie put up a good attempt with Gary tank commander.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. sallyhinch
    Member

    @WFB - that's my Brompton she's riding - I'm sorry it doesn't live up your high standards. It was a birthday present (second hand) so I didn't have much say in the details - it has since been accessorised with a Brooks B17 and a POP placard. She did ask to borrow a helmet but it was too big for her so I persuaded her not to bother.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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