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  1. sallyhinch
    Member

    Oh and she can drive but lost her licence a few years back (too many speeding tickets). I don't think she rides a bike much.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "I don't think she rides a bike much"

    Could be a valuable 'convert' though (especially within the party governing for the next 5 years.)

    "

    I certainly didn’t feel very Amazonian when I got on my first bicycle in 20 years at the weekend.

    "

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/opinion/news/joan-mcalpine-going-dutch-scots-4482260

    Came to this too -

    http://www.walkcyclevote.scot/we-walk-we-cycle-we-visit-parliament/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Rosie
    Member

    Correction - found a Both Votes Labour leaflet

    Labour's Plan for Edinburgh

    Education
    Housing
    Fracking
    NHS
    Make it easier and cheaper to get to work
    A single ticket that can be used on buses, trains, trams, the underground and even ferries.

    I didn't know Edinburgh had an underground or a ferry. Cut and paste from Glasgow I suppose. Nae cycling though.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

  5. wee folding bike
    Member

    sallyhinch,

    Ohhh any Brompton is good but if you ask the Common Wheel in Maryhill they will be able to tell you how important bicycle blackness is for all west coast cycling men.

    Why they decided to reduce the blackness of mine I couldn't say. They did threaten to send the boys round and respray all of mine yesterday. I've got a few bikes from there, one blue, one brown and one red.

    http://www.commonwheel.org.uk

    Now open on Saturdays!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. wee folding bike
    Member

    I suppose the train to Waverly goes underground a wee bit.

    The Mound is a fake hill though so if they hadn't built it in the first place they wouldn't have had to tunnel through it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    @Rosie - in the first tranche of leaflets two of my candidates - SNP + Labour both mentioned active travel/cycling. these were the more candidate specific ones.

    less in the 'eve of poll' cards that have started coming through.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    @SRD

    Good to know. I should really read those things properly.

    Greens like to extend employment by creating jobs like filling potholes. Cutting and relaying setts, seemingly a lost art, is one they could push.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. Rosie
    Member

    @wee folding bike As for a ferry, they could have river boats along the canal.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. wee folding bike
    Member

    And there was the hovercraft near Queensferry a few years ago.

    I can lay setts. I did it for the Oor Wullie garden at the '88 Garden Festival.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. sallyhinch
    Member

    @WFB - I got my big bike from Common Wheel so I know all about them! They built me a fantastic bike too - but they do seem to have very decided opinions on bike colours. My bike was powdercoated so I could choose any colour I liked but was given a very firm steer that blue or green was traditional for tourers...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. wee folding bike
    Member

    They have been doing a lot of candy pink and Kawasaki green lately.

    When I was in there a couple of weeks ago there was a sequinned one. It used to have feathers embedded in the paint but they turned black after a while.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

  14. HankChief
    Member

    https://hankchiefblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/all-politics-is-local/

    Any night owls want to have a look at this before I send it on to my candidates in the morning? Feedback welcome.

    Probably too long, but once you're on a roll it's hard to stop...

    Thanks

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

    Good blog.

    Key point for me is that no matter what the MSP candidates say (and both Toni & Alex are saying the right things) the decision (on this,Bearsway and all other cycling schemes) is in the hands of local councillors. Both Eadie and Ross don't seem to have taken the time to understand the issues other than "people are opposed".

    Alex & Toni need to explain how they'll change attitudes in their own parties. Without that change then I don't see how things will improve.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. ih
    Member

    @HankChief That's a good blog post and brings out well that even when candidates say some good things, this can be completely made meaningless by their colleagues who 'just don't get it' or even worse, are hostile.

    You're doing fantastic work on this campaign. I fear it's not seen as priority for Holyrood candidates though except for the few that are already committed, even then, unless they're in a position of real power progress will be slow, sadly.

    I'm coming to the conclusion that real change will only happen when you get an individual in power who supports it. And that can be from a most unlikely source, namely Boris Johnson (other examples are available). I hadn't intended this to sound negative; in fact I'm positive about change in the longer term, but I'm not expecting much from the next SNP government.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Nicola Sturgeon being lightly grilled by John Humphreys on the today programme a minute ago. I thought she did well. Particularly on any issues not t do with independence. Hopefully the vote share will remain 37per cent of the electorate. By her own admission that would be no change. If all SNP supporters vote SNP twice then I assume they are hoping this allows them to argue more people want independence? Not just the same people want it twice?

    Perhaps a better way to build a mandate for independence would be for SNP to get over the one issue party (independence ) and make more people like them because they start introducing better policies ( for example on this forum - give up being married to oil, roads and cars).

    Instead it feels like they will keep badgering us until we give them the right answer. I understand the second independence referendum in Quebec was even more unpleasant then the first such that despite the narrowness of the result people did then give up for at least a generation as they previously promised here. Now we will be getting opinion polls over the next five years and a push for a second referendum.

    Nicola Sturgeon did not mention the EU in her interview just there (well I had made the breakfast and was taking it back upstairs so might have missed it). Maybe all the SNP twice people should also be voting tactically to leave Europe?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "Maybe all the SNP twice people should also be voting tactically to leave Europe?"

    No doubt 'we' will have a thread for this after Thursday.

    Meanwhile -

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/a-victory-for-fear-is-a-loss-for-decent-politics

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. HankChief
    Member

    Thanks for feed back.

    Okay. Blog has been sent to them via twitter. Feel free to add weight to it by retweeting

    Alex

    Toni

    And here's the link again if you need it
    https://hankchiefblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/all-politics-is-local/

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. wee folding bike
    Member

    Leaving the EU might make it more tricky to get German bike parts.

    There might be other considerations but…

    Nah, that's it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "

    David Torrance (@davidtorrance)
    02/05/2016, 11:15 am
    Lib Dems fortress Shetland in danger of falling to nationalists - FT.com

    http://on.ft.com/1TnTbRs via @FT

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/holyrood-2016-ruth-davidson-hoping-to-take-edinburgh-central-1-4116462

    Is that like 'SNP hoping 10% of journeys will be by bike in 2020'?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. amir
    Member

    SNP - the party of hope?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "SNP - the party of hope?"

    Nothing wrong with that.

    The problem is hoping things will happen when 'everyone' tells you it will require more effort (never mind changes in policies) and cash.

    And saying 'it's up to LAs' and 'we'll keep spending as much as ever on ActiveTravel', no longer fools anyone.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. SRD
    Moderator

    I agreed with quite a lot of Humphreys' points but he was so aggressive - i've never heard him interview other party leaders like that. I thought Nicola handled it remarkably well.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. @SRD Having listened to the interview now, I will definitely not vote for BBC Radio 4.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. Rosie
    Member

    Haven't listened to it & won't but Humphreys is a rude old so-and-so and whenever he interrupts a politician who is trying to get out ten words in a sequence I veer to the politician's side.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    @Rosie: I saw part of an old Question Time recently (early Robin Day era). Panellists give lengthy, thoughtful answers, weren't interrupted anywhere near as much and the audience weren't invited to give their opinion every other minute. Far preferable to today's format.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Don't think this has already been posted - from a few days ago:

    "Scotland's Worst Drivers added 3 new photos.
    27 April at 12:56 ·
    Scottish National Party (SNP) campaign blunder sees members contradict party manifesto promises.
    "We will bring forward a Transport Bill to improve bus services, enhance and improve the role of the Scottish Road Works Commissioner and wider road works regulation and to enable and enforce responsible parking."

    https://www.facebook.com/ScotWorstDrivers/photos/pcb.1744243312525486/1744239612525856/?type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/ScotWorstDrivers/photos/pcb.1744243312525486/1744239599192524/?type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/ScotWorstDrivers/photos/pcb.1744243312525486/1744241409192343/?type=3&theater

    Bottom two are in a bike lane too by the look of it

    https://www.facebook.com/ScotWorstDrivers

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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