Could be though down again today I think it is open one way? Down from Leith street though as all cars and bikes ignoring this is hard to say. What is say able is that there were two humungous cranes down there this morning.
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St James Redevelopment
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Posted 7 years ago #
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Somebody needs to learn the difference between Leith WALK and Leith STREET.
Leith Walk isn't shutting.
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Love the use of 'Leith Walk and its hinterland'.
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I knew Harald many years ago. Decent chap. His candidacy gives me a good alternative destination for my second preference vote... :-)
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Of my limited involvement attending LCCC meetings Harald Tobermann always seemed far more level headed and open to reason than John Hein who would come over as a ranty petrolhead who could dress up his opposition in fancy clothes (I don't need special lanes to cycle! So nobody else does! But cyclists get in the way of buses!)
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The St James Quarter
Four decades ago a colossal chunk of central Edinburgh fell to demolition firm Hunter’s wrecking ball. Although Leith Street, St James Square and Greenside have managed to survive in name, the Georgian tenements which once characterised the look of the district are all but gone, replaced by the brutalist St James Centre in the 1970s and the Omni in the 2000s.
Prior to this, the St James Quarter, as it is now often referred, was a densely-populated residential area, peppered by small businesses, tailor shops, pubs and clubs. All of it disappeared as the authorities sought to create a modern urban utopia of wide roads and concrete tower blocks.
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In addition to the St James development, the company recently bought the Omni Centre across the road for more than £75m and plans to transform it into a “leisure destination”.
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Date 9 June 2017
Dear Councillor Perry
LEITH STREET SEGREGATED CYCLE ROUTE
Thank you for your e-mail dated 2 June 2017 enquiring about plans for a segregated cycle route along Leith Street, following an e-mail from <redacted>.
The Council has undertaken detailed discussions with the Edinburgh St James developer over the new road layout for Leith Street following completion of the development. This process aims to provide a layout that best balances the sometimes competing demands of all users of the street.
The process is not yet complete but the current design includes a two-way segregated cycleway along the east side of Leith Street, between Picardy Place and Carlton Road. At its northern end, this will link into cycle facilities being constructed on Leith Walk and those being proposed for York Place, as part of the City Centre West East Link.
Proposals for a cycle link along Carlton Road to Waverley Station are also being developed separately by the Council, though segregation from traffic is not currently proposed for this as it is a much quieter route.
A detailed assessment was carried out on the deliverability of segregated cycleways along the section of Leith Street from Carlton Road to Princes Street. This highlighted that segregated cycleways in this section would cause very significant adverse impacts on journeys made by public transport, as well as those using other transport modes. It is not therefore currently proposed to provide segregated cycleways in this section of the street.
Should they wish to discuss in more detail, please contact phil.noble@edinburgh.gov.uk.
Yours sincerely
Andrew EassonMy bold.
A pretty lame response if you ask me.
Does "balancing competing demands of all users" mean allocating 90% of the space to the least space-efficient form of transport i.e. private motors?
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Carlton Road
Repeated quite a number of times
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Shirley Leith Street is the bit that most needs segregation!
Of course, all that knocking down of the St James Centre couldn't have provided for more space on the road for cycling, could it?
I often hear it called 'Carlton Hill'. Doesn't help that the Carlton Hotel is just across the valley.
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"Leith Street is the bit that most needs segregation"
It is - and for everything of this magnitude, the developers should have money screwed out of them to pay for it.
It would be peanuts in the scheme of what they are spending and would partially make up for the shambolic mess that Leith Street is now.
Thats too difficult, though, isnt it.
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Leith St should be buses, pedestrians and cycles only (and maybe taxis).
Time to block up the cross-town routes to cars. What better place to start than Leith St.?
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Anyone want to FoI the traffic model cited by the officer?
I bet it's the St James developer's own model that formed their planning permission to put the 1800 place car park in.
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that formed their planning permission to put the 1800 place car park in
The 25% increase in city-centre off street, pay-to-use parking must have had some stonking business/use case to support it.Posted 7 years ago # -
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Major diversions will impact 12 city centre bus routes as a result of the Leith Street closure during works to redevelop the St James Centre in the East End.
The road will be shut to all traffic from September 2 until the summer of 2018, resulting in the redirection of day and nighttime bus services.
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I hear there is a suitable space outside of Chateau IWRATS.
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"moved from outside St Mary’s Catholic Cathedral to a public garden off London Road"
Paolozzi will be very welcome in these parts!
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I see the "Easter Road gyratory" is now in operation. Unfortunately, no entry signs remain a mystery to some drivers as I encountered 3 cars (including a taxi) heading the wrong direction down Montrose Terrace and a further one on E Norton Place.
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Detailed automatic traffic count data from before the implementation of the scheme
Covers Leith Walk (Elm Row bus changeover) and Easter Rd (roughly Cornelius)
also available as a spreadsheet which you can save for future reference
Presumably being monitored in the same places now
Found in LCCC agenda, https://leithcentralcc.co.uk/
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I hear there is a suitable space outside of Chateau IWRATS.
Ah, Morningsider, so you got wind of the foundry in my back yard? A suitable place indeed for the recycling of these banal casts as super-sonorous CCE-edition bronze bicycle bells.
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I thought that cycle access was being maintained through Leith St but the article says all traffic; which is it? Or have they forgotten that in the words of critical mass, we are the traffic?
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@mgj I believe they have just forgotten, in the same way that notices to "road users" about the Easter Road diversions has turned into "attention all drivers".
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Well the first proper day of the gyratory system and it seems to be working, except for the buses turning on junctions. especially at corner of London Road/Montrose Terrace. Predictably that is a slow operation for a bus or coach. The road surface there will be a huge mess after 10 months of these sorts of manoeuvres.
I hope they'll be diverting most Leith Walk bus services along York Place, because if not this going to be a nightmare when Leith Street actually closes in a couple of weeks' time.
The only positive from the one way system is that Alva Place no longer makes sense as a route for rat-running. Therefore the speeding rat-running drivers have evaporated from Alva Place and Rossie Place.
It also appears that the top of Easter Road is quieter than normal, so perhaps some drivers have decided to avoid this area altogether. Maybe the recent total gridlock has put them off...
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Cycled up pavement to work this morning. Unfortunately encountered a jogger. Awkward
No good option.
1) Cycle up Easter Rd pavement, cross on ped green
2) Cycle up W Norton Place, carry bike up steps, cross on ped green
3) Join the world's widest "3" lane gyratory (more like 6) and cross the full width of it twice.Even coming down the hill now you can't filter to the front for 3 lanes of vehicles.
Uhhhhhhhh
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From link -
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Approved by the City of Edinburgh Council’s Transport and Environment Committee in March, the Leith Street works programme is supported by the Council’s City Wide Traffic Management Group and will be managed throughout the 44-week closure by developers TH Real Estate.
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Mmm (my bold)
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