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Cars really hurt

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  • Started 8 years ago by gdm
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  1. Darkerside
    Member

    Echo all the above commiserations. Also echo the "definitely have a chat to the driver's insurers" suggestions. At the very least I'd be wanting a repair shop to give the whole frame a once-over - several tonnes of moving metal carries an awful lot of energy!

    It's not worth the risk of having your front fork fold under you the next time you hit a bump at speed.

    PS: note if you do wait for an ambulance, you're likely to be strapped to a spinal board (not a pleasant experience in itself), and your bike isn't coming with you...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Just thinking aloud (not this case specific) -

    What 'rights' do employers have about compensation for staff who are off (esp for longer periods)?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    you're likely to be strapped to a spinal board

    Presumably there is a good reason for that...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. unhurt
    Member

    I have wondered what happens to your bike if you're ambulanced away? When I was hit on St Johns Road I ended up getting a ride to my friend's nearby place in the paramedic vehicle for on-site patching up - my friend wheeled my rather bent bike along the road for me. If she hadn't, would the police have left it on the roadside, or would they take it away for future retrieval? I was genuinely worried about this at the time...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Darkerside
    Member

    Depends if you have a spinal injury :) If not it's a wildly unpleasant way to spend several hours.

    I only point it out because if you've slid off the bike and can be confident you haven't put any energy through your spine, staying on the ground waiting for the ambulance you don't really need might not be the best move.

    Definitely not saying that applies in this case!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    In the motorcycling community it is common practice not to get up until an ambulance arrives any time you're knocked off, regardless of how you feel. Forces all concerned to respect the formal processes when there might be a tendancy to do otherwise, given the othering of those on two wheels powered or otherwise.

    Oh, and for the bike you could ask Jalnar at the Bike Station to do a bells and whistles service and inspection. £80 and he will spot anything out of order if you tell him it's been crashed.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Arellcat
    Moderator

    What 'rights' do employers have about compensation for staff who are off (esp for longer periods)?

    I'm not sure (and I am not an HR expert) that employers have any rights in that respect unless the employer was required to recruit temporarily in order to manage the absence. When a member of staff becomes unavailable owing to medical leave, that loss of resource has to be accommodated in the same manner whether that leave was the result of planned or unplanned events.

    But if the leave was the result of injury from an incident at work then the employer is liable to the individual, but a third party might be liable to the employer. For example, you might employ a chauffeur and provide a car, and if they were injured because someone else drove into them then you have a duty to your chauffeur to manage their time off work to recover, but insurance companies would have to battle it out so that you could repair or replace the car and perhaps also be able to pay for the hiring of another chauffeur for the duration of the recovery.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. twinspark
    Member

    @unhurt

    "I have wondered what happens to your bike if you're ambulanced away?"...

    When a cyclist collapsed in our street and was ambulanced away I offered to put their bike in our bike shed. The WPC said thank you and she would just take my details so the bike could be repatriated at a later time. She then came to say it was OK as a van was coming to take the bike to the Police Station.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. WickyWocky
    Member

    When my husband was ambulanced away the police took his bike into safe keeping.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. gdm
    Member

    I must have got up quickly afterwards as I next remember standing on the pavement, so while I can understand the logic of staying put till help arrives I'm not sure my frame of mind at the time would have helped and I've no real idea what actually happened. With hindsight I perhaps could have let the driver take me all the way to hospital but I was just worried given the pain and spasms going along my spine. Again, not really all 'there' in the immediate aftermath.

    On the bicycle issue, a local resident kindly took the bike which the driver had to remind me of as I'd obviously forgotten. I just remember someone taking it and seeing it with it's buckled wheel etc. When my wife and I went to collect it, I realised it had been locked up by my own padlock, which is crazy as it means I'd needed to have given the resident my keys and him returned them to me and I don't remember that at all!

    I don't know where my helmet is either!

    I didn't even know for sure where it was going to be so fortunately it was just locked outside where I could find it. I had to leave it to my wife to (wo)manhandle it into the boot and neither wheel was turning so she had to carry it all the way.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    All sounds a bit more than a 'minor incident/inconvenience'.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. crowriver
    Member

    Sounds like a fair concussion you suffered there!

    I know you don't want/need the hassle, but you should probably ring the police to get an incident number, and see if there will be any charges brought at all.

    You'll find the incident number useful when dealing with insurers.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. wingpig
    Member

    "...and neither wheel was turning..."

    My frame was deemed dead (independently by two shops) after a less hospitalisable impact (where quite clearly remember the impact and exactly what I shouted at the driver as I sprang to my feet). Get his insurance details now, before the inspection and quote-for-replacement charges mount up.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. gdm
    Member

    @crowriver yeah - I've got the incident number from the police and have got in touch with my insurers so hopefully they'll take it all from there.

    Fingers crossed that all that needs to come out is the repairs to the bike but it's a relief to know that things are in motion in case I need something in addition to my parecetemol and ibuprofen cocktail.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. wee folding bike
    Member

    In December I folded the bike up and put it on the driver's back seat while he drove me to school. I asked him if he wanted some tea but he was OK.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. No other vehicles were involved in my off (so I'm told,) so thankfully none of these potential hassles.

    Not knowing what happened, got the bike checked out anyway. The Cycle Service stripped it, unbent bent bits, replaced the bar tape and put it back together for £40+ Very reasonable I thought. I'd recommend.

    Was very grateful to the Park Rangers for looking after my bike for a couple of days for me.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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