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"Developer aims high with plans for hotel at Waterfront"

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  • Started 8 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
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    However, Marion Williams, director of heritage group the Cockburn Association, said she was “not convinced”.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/developer-aims-high-with-plans-for-hotel-at-waterfront-1-4029469

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. acsimpson
    Member

    She said: “Looking at the image, it’s a very thin, tall building which is going to have a lot of wind and rain hurled at it. Is that going to work? And does it relate to any masterplan of what the Waterfront is going to look like?”

    Is she really saying that she isn't sure the architects can design a building to withstand Scottish weather?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. mgj
    Member

    If she isn't, I will. Victoria Quay and plenty of other recent buildings designed for Scotland come with flat roofs that soon start to leak, leading to costly repairs and rework. From the Council housing at Broomhouse onwards.

    (VQ leaked from day 1, most specifically into the room of the then Principal Finance Officer).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. The Boy
    Member

    Surely that's an issue with the builders rather than the architects? Edinburgh is riddled with flat-roofed tenements which seems to be able to stand up to the weather fine provided the building fabric is properly cared for.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. acsimpson
    Member

    I'd agree with The Boy. A leaky flat roof is a leaky flat roof whether it is in New York or in Edinburgh. We're not the only maritime climate in the world.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
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    I think there are many better reasons to be sceptical of this building than a flat roof - I say this as a resident of a flat-roofed tenement myself.

    There's very little reason to be building so high in Edinburgh, especially on a brownfield site where any meaningful development has been stalled for nearly 10 years. Seems to be a bit of an unneccessary vanity project and will set a bad precedent for what scale of development is appropriate in Edinburgh.

    The "Platinum Point" abominations that sneak into the background of that artists impressions are much less tall than the proposal, and a quick look across the Edinburgh skyline from any point of vantage shows just what a visual blot they are.

    I happened to end up at Ocean Terminal to get the bus home from a rambling walk around Leith yesterday so popped in to try and find the M&S. The shopping centre is about 1/5 empty and 1/5 full of fly-by-night tenants who must be on seriously reduced rates. Just who do they imagine is going to be coming to stay in a 28-storey hotel down here?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Fountainbridge
    Member

    I'm wondering if the image on EEN is their own making rather than from the developers.

    The hotel site is to the left of the current office block rather than to the right as in the EEN photo. Would be a tight squeeze between office block and car park.

    Doubt it will go ahead without the tram due to lack of infrastructure round there.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    According to this pdf; https://lhncc.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/sk90_002_hotel_site_options.pdf

    from the Leith & Newhaven CC site, the hotel is planned not for the big bit of wasteland next to the existing office block, but actually on the footprint of Ocean Terminal, joined in at the north end, either on the east or west side (to be finalised).

    The top floors should have lovely views of the wasteland that was originally set aside for a hotel.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Fountainbridge
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    WOW - hadn't seen that plan before. Going by the street layout the hotel width would be about 4 car lengths. Very narrow.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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