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  1. Claggy Cog
    Member

    Beer,beer. Cider is not ale. Nuff said.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Baldcyclist
    Member

    http://youtu.be/nbixI0aMuIM

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. amir
    Member

    It seems like I've inadvertently left the CTC. I sent an email to the membership department enquiring about a refund if I left and saying how disappointed I was about the situation. It appears that my enquiry was badly written and got misinterpreted. So I didn't get an email reply but I did get a cheque in the post today with no letter of explanation. This was for the whole amount of the family membership even though 6 months has passed since renewal.

    It's a little odd that there was no attempt at communication. Now I'll be looking for an alternative 3rd part insurance supplier. Any recommendations?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "with no letter of explanation"

    Maybe they are too busy writing cheques...

    Does seem odd that they didn't take the opportunity to 'engage'.

    Maybe there has been a decision to remove anyone who is not '100% in-tune with the moving-forward project'(?)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. paddyirish
    Member

    @amir,

    like the idea of your badly written email :-) Might have to do one myself...

    British Cycling's Ride membership covers Ccmmutes and everything up to sportives (and Audax- IIRC you are an audax man), but not racing. There are a lot of perks (e.g. discounts for revolution series in Glasgow greater than the cost of membership and some interesting videos/fitness tips)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    I was told today that CTC scotland is to be known as "Cycling UK Scottish Campaigners".

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Catchy.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    CUKSC.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    "Maybe there has been a decision to remove anyone who is not '100% in-tune with the moving-forward project'(?)"

    Sounds almost like a purge...

    At least amir got his money back. I'm quietly waiting for my membership to expire, having taken out a family membership for about 7 years or so.

    You may find that you are covered for third party liability in your home insurance, it is worth checking the policy details (not while driving motor vehicles, obviously, that is usually explicitly excluded). Seems I had public liability insurance all the time, just not to quite the same level as the CTC cover offers.

    AUK membership will cover a rider on any AUK audax event up to a sizeable limit of liability. Even if not a member, the £2 extra fee when entering an event as a non-member is for the insurance.

    Anyway I didn't join just for the insurance, but to be part of something which was about cycle touring I suppose. Now it's no longer about that, why pay all that money every year just for some insurance?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I can't tell you what it is about me that has always drawn me to 'the out group'.

    I think I'll give them some money this year, CTC always had a bit of the, well 50 something bearded men with beige bikes about it (ok I've got a beige bike, but I thought I had another 10 years before the beard and parting of cash happened). I like the new branding and new more inclusive message. Time will tell if it works or not...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    "50 something bearded men with beige bikes"

    Oi! I resemble that remark!

    Well actually I don't own any beige bikes (nor 'sand', 'cappuccino', 'stone', 'taupe', etc)*, and I've not quite hit the big one yet, but next year I will be eligible for a discount rail pass...

    * - though I do possess a coffee/bronze/brown BSA 20 shopper.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. amir
    Member

    I was a member of the CTC when I was a kid

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. wee folding bike
    Member

    Bronze '78 Raleigh 20 in the garden for going to the station. it's a colour not seen since the '70s.

    50 in a few months. Cow-orkers do not know the date and anyone on Facebook who does know has been warned not to mention it.

    No hair, facial or other, since the alopecia and the memsahib was envious of that today since she felt self conscious about leg hair.

    CTC since I was about 23.

    Recently took up the harmonica which puts me in something of an outgroup in Scotland these days. Apparently it was quite common in the past, my dad and uncles can play them, but now it's only for when you're doing hard time down on the state farm with a 200 pound cell mate. Working on bending notes while tongue blocking. I can do it lip blocked but that's easier.

    Got a recorder on Amazon for £6. I could play that in school and have been re-learning it.

    Working on finger style ukulele.

    Photo of one of my Bromptons on fire appeared on the Common Wheel Facebook page and comments suggested that it was neglected. No, it just gets used and isn't an ornament.

    Reasonably open to new ideas. I just got some low top Cons. They're OK.

    And I think the name change is silly.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Claire
    Member

    @SRD Out of interest, who told you that? I sit on the CTC Scotland committee and it's the first I've heard of that title!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Blueth
    Member

    As a member of 30 years standing I think this latest move has finally completed the process of disillusionment with CTC's corporate reduction in interest in members actually cycling socially, as opposed to taking part in some cycle riding project (though I feel there is room for an element of campaigning in any cycling club).

    I don't feel like cutting off my nose to spite my face but the level of fees seems high just to go on organised runs with local people I know and like. If you want insurance and membership of an actual cycling club then I believe the Tandem Club offers such, with no need to actually have a bike with two saddles☺

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. SRD
    Moderator

    @claire does that mean that meeting (which we were told on FB was going to decide the name last week) hasn't actually happened yet?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. Claire
    Member

    @SRD it's today! :)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Baldcyclist
    Member

    The activism is the bit I would like to support financially.

    To be honest even if I was paying the yearly subscription, I would never go on a single local group ride (despite knowing some in the local organisation quite well), for me (and because of circumstances) weekends are for family only. I won't allow anything, even cycling to interfere with that*.

    Edit *each to their own and all that, shouldn't be taken as preaching.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    I've been on local CTC Lothians rides in the past, and generally enjoyed them. Then I 'progressed' to audax, and didn't have time for anything much else. I want to get back into some cycle touring, but it looks like I'm on my own on that one (unless I take my son along on a tandem). Pity, because I like the idea of belonging to a local cycling club and taking part in group rides occasionally. However the subs for CTC are excessive just for that (and a magazine). Now that they have no real interest in touring (except for pricey organised fully supported holidays with bus transfers etc.) then I don't really see the point of being a member.

    Sorry, I forgot: it's not really CTC any more. CUK doesn't really seem to need or want its existing membership base...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. dougal
    Member

    "I sit on the CTC Scotland committee and it's the first I've heard of that title!"

    Is this how you find out you're longer on the committee?? Like finding your work swipe card no longer opens the door...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. Claire
    Member

    @dougal, I hope not! There's been a fair bit of conjecture flying around recently with respect to the rebrand, but I can confirm that Cycling UK Scottish Campaigners is not the name the committee will be taking on. It was decided at the committee meeting on Saturday to change name in line with the rebrand to Cycling UK Scotland.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. That does give a slightly odd interplay with the main organisation. If it is Cycling UK it sounds like it operates for the whole of the UK, so I guess Cycling UK Scotland, while an odd geographical mish-mash, clarifies that. But does that not mean that there should be a Cycling UK England, Wales and Norn Ireland? Or does the same uni operate for those three, so is it Cycling UK Minus Scotland?

    (I've never been a member, it doesn't really make any odds to me, but the rebrand itself seems a little odd, and causing slightly confusing naming conventions).

    (Better than 'Scottish Campaigners' though).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. SRD
    Moderator

    'CUKS'?

    thanks for letting us know what was decided though!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Claire
    Member

    Hi guys, the new name is in line with the re-brand and other groups across the country. For example, CTC Newcastle would become Cycling UK Newcastle. I think the idea is to give every group the option to opt in on the new branding. Scotland, Cymru and NI have not been treated any differently to that of a member group. Hence Cycling UK Scotland.

    Edit - I also appreciate WC's comment in that it's a bit confusing, especially in context of Cycling Scotland and Scottish Cycling.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    """
    voujan

    8:42 PM on 24/04/2016

    £35 per year is the cost of joining British Cycling (formally Cycle Touring Club), this includes public liability insurance for general cycle use as well as legal support and a host of other benefits.
    """

    (my bold)

    So already people are confusing British Cycling, Cycling UK, Cycling Scotland, former CTC, Cycling UK Scotland...

    What a (branding) mess!

    (From EEN comments section of the PoP article, presumably voujan is a cyclist)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. Claire
    Member

    Don't forget Scottish Cycling!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. paddyirish
    Member

    Just received Cycle magazine which included voting papers to vote on a motion whether to rescind the rebranding.

    All done alongside a "major triumph" in being allowed to receive gift aid, allegedly only because of the renaming. If this really made a difference I despair.

    I know which way I'll be voting...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. crowriver
    Member

    Aye, I got the magazine too. Bit of a dilemma: should I vote when I shan't be a member in a few months' time?

    Hmmm...

    Posted 7 years ago #

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