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CEC election 2017 (May 4th)

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "OTOH there are written instructions on the ballot paper."

    OK

    Obviously I wasn't looking, but don't remember anything.

    Perhaps 'Numbers not Xs' in big letters on the top and 'more info on back'

    (?)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Klaxon
    Member

    I was given full and clear instructions on the format too. Given it was 8pm and he'd have been reading them all day, that guy is a total pro.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. ih
    Member

    Many people don't read instructions. To really drive down the number of spoilt ballots, there needs to be a way of the voter actually demonstrating to the clerk how they will complete it, obviously without revealing their intended vote.

    That would take planning, and training of staff, and maybe isn't considered cost-effective.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "maybe isn't considered cost-effective"

    Yeah, expensive this democracy stuff.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    Day 5 in Office: Turned down a "free" bus pass, cycling is better for my heart. #edward8

    https://mobile.twitter.com/drscottthinks/status/862380285463232512

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. jdanielp
    Member

    There were sheets up on the walls at the count showing examples of accepted and rejected ballots and how the votes would be interpreted for the former. It strikes me that it might have been useful for these to have been on display at polling stations...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Ian Murray (@IanMurrayMP)
    10/05/2017, 16:52
    #GeneralElection2017 rule of thumb. If a "rumour" about me starts with "An SNP source said". I suggest you ignore it. More rubbish.

    "

    (Ref http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/coalition-talks-in-deadlock-amid-claims-of-outside-pressure-1-4441425 )

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/joanna-mowat-edinburgh-did-not-vote-for-a-coalition-of-chaos-1-4442458

    I feel embarrassed for apparently intelligent adults who parrot the lines like this: "coalition if chaos" - seriously?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    the Conservative, Labour and Liberal groups have more in common than divides them and a stable coalition of all three would be bound to the political centre

    What will be the end result of three parties (Lab, SNP, Green) locked into a contest to see who can out-left each other?

    Tories never worshiped at the altar of intellect right enough, but you need at least a 40W bulb to write in the papers.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "

    And where a clear public call for some sense to be brought to the 20mph speed limit policy would in all probability be ignored.

    "

    Must have missed that.

    Just recall various politicians (mostly Conservative) saying 'let's see how existing ones go before doing any more' and being being unwilling to say (especially in their areas) which roads they would move from 20-30 and/or not be reduced 30-20.

    Also some saying 'scrapped in Manchester' (FakeNews).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Just re-read what JMowat said.

    "where a clear public call for some sense"

    So, unpicking that -

    "some sense" - who could disagree with that?

    "a clear public call" - ah, so that's if there ever was one, some time in the future(?)

    Or 'Conservatives call for more 20mph, sooner and better enforced because they are popular with cyclists, pedestrians, people with mobility difficulties and those living/working on/near busy roads or rat-runs'.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    If 20mph is going to be part of coalition talks then the Conservatives should publish the evidence they have against the roll-out.

    Similarly, they can show the evidence which shows that Sunday parking charges will hurt business.

    Otherwise how can negotiations take place?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

  14. chdot
    Admin

    OK

    Important new blog post

    http://www.edinburghgreens.org.uk/site/blog/political-direction-for-edinburgh

    I'm not clear if this is referring to (slight possibility of) a coalition involving Con and Green

    "

    Secondly, that Green councillors stood on a manifesto outlining transformative change for the capital: in housing, transport, social care, community ownership and planning, to take just some examples. Whether or not you agree with all our ideas, it is crucial that this longer term vision is heard within the city chambers in order to set ambitious horizons. That does not always sit comfortably with a role within formal coalition. To do so would also mean that it would be left to the Tories to set an agenda from an increasingly right-wing perspective. Edinburgh needs a radical, green and progressive voice to balance that and to help push policy further than it might otherwise go.

    I assume it means coalition with Lab SNP and Con left out.

    If so, can't understand why Con left setting agenda.

    What am I misunderstanding?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

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    LABOUR’S Scottish executive committee has put the brakes on a proposed coalition deal with the SNP to run the Capital.

    The Labour and Nationalist groups on the city council finally reached agreement to go ahead with a coalition yesterday, after five days of negotiations.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-puts-edinburgh-coalition-deal-with-snp-on-hold-1-4442511

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    LABOUR’S Scottish executive committee has put the brakes on a proposed coalition deal with the SNP to run the Capital.

    National politics interfering in local politics again, if the parties can't separate the two what chance the electorate?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "what chance the electorate?"

    Not just in the way you meant!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "

    THE Capital’s SNP leaders today insisted they are ready to lead the city – with or without Labour.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-to-lead-edinburgh-council-alone-if-coalition-deal-fails-1-4443689

    Perhaps time for SNP/Green coalition!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-39881144

    SNP & Labour have agreed to form a coalition to run South Ayrshire after the previous Lab/Con coalition could not be established. The Conservatives are the largest party, but no chance of running a minority administration.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. SRD
    Moderator

    More scuttlebut on the Portobello councillor who lost his seat.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/city-councillor-reported-to-ethics-watchdog-1-3239243

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    Is the Iain McGill mentioned in that article (the person who filed the complaint) the same Iain McGill who is standing as the Conservative candidate in North & Leith?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Councillor McGill happens to describe himself as a "businessman" on his Twitter bio, as does the article. A little digging around Companies House suggests he runs an employment agency for home helps.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. crowriver
    Member

    Oh look! He's on Twotter: https://twitter.com/iainmcgill?lang=en

    (Not an endorsement).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "

    “Any agreement would necessarily have to bring together three parties to govern from the centre to provide a stable administration which could deliver improved services for the people of Edinburgh.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edinburgh-tories-approach-labour-over-three-way-coalition-1-4445750

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "

    LABOUR has rejected an approach from the Conservatives for a three-way coalition to run Edinburgh.

    Labour group leader Cammy Day said his party could not do a deal with the Tories because they refused to commit to a tourist tax and would not rule out privatisation of services.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/council-elections-2017-labour-rules-out-deal-with-conservatives-1-4446604

    Maybe this could become a new soap opera?

    Or maybe there's not enough action?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. crowriver
    Member

    That's good news the Tories are out of the running. I imagine there may be some fine tuning of an SNP-Labour agreement, and that there will be an arrangement with Greens on certain priorities.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Cllr Adam McVey (@adamrmcvey)
    15/05/2017, 8:33 pm
    Delighted that @FrankRoss06 will be @EdinburghSNP nominee for Lord Provost!

    https://twitter.com/edinreporter/status/864199849066938368

    "

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "

    One source said: “They have not accepted the proposal and asked the group to look at it again.”

    The move looks likely to mean a further delay in resolving the question – which has been hanging over the city since the council elections on May 4 – of who will form the administration to run the Capital for the next five years.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-grassroots-members-veto-snp-coalition-1-4447728

    So are councillors twiddling their thumbs, while things just carry on without any political input/interference?!

    Posted 6 years ago #

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