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  1. Rosie
    Member

    Didn't Belgium take about a year once to form a government? The country ticked along okay in the interim.

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  2. chdot
    Admin

    Good to see EN commenters coming up with good ideas -

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    The solution to this deadlock is simple. Spokes and Living Streets can run Edinburgh with the Greens, as we have done for the last ten years. Labour and SNP were useful mouthpieces, but our agenda is established and we no longer need them.

    On Monday, all car drivers will be required to hand in their keys and register for re-education, including lessons in How to Cycle Obstructively, Why the Highway Code Applies Even Less To You Now and Looking Hot in Lycra While Scaring the Hell out of Pedestrians.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-grassroots-members-veto-snp-coalition-1-4447728#comments-area

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  3. Rosie
    Member

    The solution to this deadlock is simple. Spokes and Living Streets can run Edinburgh with the Greens, as we have done for the last ten years. Labour and SNP were useful mouthpieces, but our agenda is established and we no longer need them.

    Rumbled!

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  4. Frenchy
    Member

    Elsewhere: In Aberdeen, Labour, the Conservatives and (I think) three independents (including one who was a Lib Dem until today) agreed to form an administration. 9 Labour councillors, 11 Conservatives, but the previous council leader (Jenny Laing, Labour) was going to continue in her role.

    Labour's Scottish Executive Committee told them "No, no deals with Tories". Council group stood firm.

    So, Aberdeen council just gained 9 independent councillors.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15291055.Labour_suspends_entire_council_team_over_Aberdeen_Tory_deal_as_deadline_passes/?ref=twtrec

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  5. chdot
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  6. chdot
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  7. chdot
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  8. chdot
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    Scottish Labour’s ruling executive has rejected proposals for a coalition with the Conservatives to run West Lothian Council.

    The Labour group on the council had placed a formal request for a partnership with the Tories but the party’s Scottish Executive Committee (SEC) blocked the deal.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-executive-rejects-tory-coalition-in-west-lothian-1-4448925

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  9. chdot
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    THE stalemate at the City Chambers over who will form the next administration shows no sign of early resolution.

    Two weeks after the council elections, there is no coalition deal in place and no agreement on the way forward. The key players on Edinburgh's Council are still to reach an agreement.

    Today’s first full council meeting since the elections is due to vote on a new Lord Provost, with the SNP proposing its former group leader Frank Ross. But other appointments are expected to be postponed for at least a week.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/local-elections-stalemate-at-city-chambers-two-weeks-on-1-4449161

    It's a conspiracy to stop 'us' getting at the new Transport committee members!

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  10. chdot
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  12. crowriver
    Member

    @CllrChasBooth

    Delighted my motion to push forward a low emission zone in Edinburgh was approved today, w support from all parties bar Tories. #edincouncil

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  13. chdot
    Admin

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    Green councillors push for Edinburgh to move forward

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    http://www.edinburghgreens.org.uk/site/news/lez-edinburgh/

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  14. chdot
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    The SNP and Green councillors voted for Cllr Ross while the Tories and Lib Dems backed Robert Aldridge, the Lib Dem group leader and now the longest-serving councillor. Labour councillors abstained.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/tories-accuse-labour-over-edinburgh-provost-vote-1-4450261

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  15. Frenchy
    Member

    Conservatives apparently just randomly nominating people from other parties without asking them first:

    Tory councillor Cameron Rose tried to nominate Labour’s Lezley Cameron to be Lord Provost. But she told the council: “This has come as a complete surprise and I respectfully decline nomination.”

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  16. chdot
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    Comment: Party politics not serving Edinburgh well

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/comment-party-politics-not-serving-edinburgh-well-1-4453855

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  17. kaputnik
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    SNP and Green councillors voted for Cllr Ross

    The Greens backed Frank Ross in exchange for tabling the Clean Air Zone as an emergency motion. The Provost apparently can't decide what is tabled, but he can decide the running order and bump things up a bit. I think allowing the largest party to have the titular head of the council in exchange for rushing through something that important is not a bad trade. The SNP were keen to get Frank in to maintain harmony in their group after he was dethroned from being the group leader.

    The word on the street is that local Labour want to do a deal with the SNP to run an administration but things are being held up by the heidyins. Kezia told the Edinburgh Reporter yesterday that it's not her fault as she's not one of the heidyins on that committee.

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  18. Frenchy
    Member

    The word on the street is that local Labour want to do a deal with the SNP to run an administration but things are being held up by the heidyins.

    Heidyins and loweryins as well. The "local campaign forum" opposed a coalition with the SNP: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-grassroots-members-veto-snp-coalition-1-4447728

    The EEN has called this a "veto", but I'm not sure it's actually binding. Who knows what the situation is now - Labour maybe keen to hold off until after the general election.

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  19. crowriver
    Member

    "Labour maybe keen to hold off until after the general election."

    Well of course. Ian Murray needs to be given the opportunity to wrap himself in the Union Jack. Then, *if* he gets in, on the 9th June a coalition will presumably miraculously occur. If he doesn't get in.....hmmm.

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  20. chdot
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    THE SNP is set to take control of the city council as a minority administration – but still hopes Labour bosses will give the go-ahead for a coalition at a later date.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-will-go-for-minority-administration-in-edinburgh-1-4454312

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  21. crowriver
    Member

    Edinburgh Reporter
    @EdinReporter

    A motion has been suggested for 'political management arrangements' by Lab LibDem and Green Groups @Edinburgh_CC but no council till June

    https://twitter.com/EdinReporter/status/867660283103387648

    The council has now passed the cross party motion to appoint members to committees boards and joint boards by 43 votes to 17

    https://twitter.com/EdinReporter/status/867682136865878016

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  22. chdot
    Admin

    So that's Lab LibDem and Green motion backed by SNP?

    Or Tories?

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  23. crowriver
    Member

    SNP. Conservatives had a rival motion which was roundly criticised and rejected by all other parties.

    Is this how things are going to proceed for now until after General Election? Or will we see a more proactive SNP minority administration supported by others?

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  24. crowriver
    Member

    Slightly different spin on things from the EEN:

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-blocks-snp-control-of-edinburgh-1-4456813

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  25. chdot
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    WEST Lothian’s new council leader has denied doing any deal with the Tories to establish Labour as a minority administration while the SNP – the biggest party – is left out in the cold.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/labour-denies-minority-deal-with-tories-in-west-lothian-1-4458563

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  26. chdot
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    EDINBURGH’s Lord Provost issued a private apology to his SNP colleagues after forgetting to declare his ownership of a hotel in the Highlands.

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    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15314043.Edinburgh_Lord_Provost_apologised_to_SNP_colleagues_after_failing_to_declare_hotel_ownership/

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  27. chdot
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    After Labour HQ twice rejected their plan for a formal coalition in West Lothian, Labour councillors took control of the authority through an informal deal with the Tories instead.

    There are also claims Labour is now running Midlothian with informal Conservative support, with an unusual enhanced salary for the leader of the Tory group there.

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    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15313205.Scottish_Labour_facing_new_council_discipline_crisis_over_Tory_deals/?ref=mrb&lp=9

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  28. chdot
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    Bin Watch: Edinburgh residents’ anger over at overflowing bins

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/bin-watch-edinburgh-residents-anger-over-at-overflowing-bins-1-4458571

    Well what do they expect when no-one is running the Council!

    Can't even blame Lesley Hinds anymore...

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  29. neddie
    Member

    If only people would stop buying mountains of plastic wrapped food and other plastic rubbish - which invariably ends up in the ocean.

    I can't help feeling the supermarkets should be organising and paying for the refuse collections, since they're the ones generating all the waste. Would give them an incentive to reduce the amount of packaging.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    With STV rather than FPTP it would seem that the largest party is not necessarily going to be in charge? This seems odd to me though I think Gordon brown even tried this with FPTP general election he lost.

    I shall Way and do a spot of googling and return, as the landscape may have shifted slightly so that greens or other smaller parties e.g. Labour, need to have a view about being in power, or maybe just be like Sinn Fein, win the seats but not take them up.

    Google resulted in interesting Article in FT about Austrian politics. Other examples are all where parties all have no overall dominance. ( eg Netherlands with lots of smaller parties) Obviously SNP remain the clear favourite amongst voters, just that their ability to dominate has been curtailed slightly.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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