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Inch to airport route help

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  • Started 8 years ago by Stephan Matthiesen
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  1. I have to fly several times a year and when I only have hand luggage I'd like to cycle to the airport. I'm not worried about leaving the bike there for a few days - if somebody drives a van through the barriers and starts their angle grinder to cut the lock, I'm sure the bloke with the machine gun who's standing next to the bike rack might have a word with them...

    Anyway, I'm looking for route suggestions from Inch. The first bit through Hermitage of Braid is easy and nice, but from Braidburn Terrace I tried a few different routes and I'm not sure what's best at different times.

    One option I tried is Dalhousie Terr - Morningside Drive, then through the Forest (got lost at Craiglockhart Pond last time) to the Union Canal, along the Canal to Gogar Station Rd. I did this last time at 1am at night (after we couldn't disembark for more than an hour as the airport couldn't find steps suitable for the type of aircraft...) and it was great, but how busy is the canal on Fridays around 10 and on Sunday afternoons? Gogar Station Rd was quite ok (with the new road markings) with perhaps 3 or 4 cars even though their drivers apparently did not expect anybody else out at this time.

    Instead of the Craiglockhart Pond route, I also tried Glenlockhart Rd to the canal, but this really unpleasant as it's a steep narrow road with speeding cars and no pavement.

    On a different trip tried to find a way through Broomhouse and South Gyle but basically ended up along major roads that weren't great (I can't remember exactly where that was, I think Calder Rd and Broomhous Rd.). Roads were all wide but with so many defects that I simply found it really tiring. That was at 5am without much traffic, but how is this during the day?

    The cycle path along Bankhead drive along the tram was ok, the industrial estate was sort of ok, but how do you cross the huge roundabout at the end of the bypass?

    Finally, is there a way to avoid Eastfield Rd (the bit from Glasgow Road to the airport)? When I was there at about 5:30am, it was packed full of taxis queuing all the way from the airport to Glasgow Rd., each carrying one very important businessperson on their commute to London I guess. I cycled on the (empty) pavement but it's bumpy with high kerbs at numerous side roads/farm entrances etc. Is there perhaps a path near the tram line?

    Finally, I also thought about taking the tram for the last part between Edinburgh South and airport. Should be OK if I have early morning/late evening flight but what's the experience of bringing a fairly big bulky bike on board at let's say 10am?

    I'm really keen to find a good route because even with getting lost it took only took about an hour (I'm not particularly fast and with hand luggage etc.), whereas public transport is well over an hour and has taken up to two hours as I have to get to Waverley first and the tram trundles along really slowly most of the way. Public transport also isn't an option if my flight is before 7am or arrives after 11pm - the airport bus runs early/late but the other local buses don't.

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  2. Claire
    Member

    Hi Stephan!

    I ride out to the airport from my neck of the woods now and again so can offer a few suggestions. If you get out to South Gyle train station happily enough, there's a cut via the scheme and through the park that crosses you over Glasgow Road and through residential streets to the Maybury. Then there's a toucan you can cross and take the shared path the whole rest of the way to the airport. Pretty easy and stress-free.

    Sadly, I've never discovered an alternative way to get to the airport other than via the cruddy pavement. So if anyone has any tips I'd find that useful!

    RE bikes on the tram, it's all ok outwith the rush hour restrictions. The tram conductors want you to stand with the bike at particular sides of the doors so that people can get on and off, but I've not had any real issues with the bike on the tram.

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  3. wingpig
    Member

    Canal at 10:00 on a Friday should be doable except during school holidays. Canal on a Sunday isn't worth it on a bike.

    If you go along the Bankhead tram track cycle path you stay on it right to the end opposite Hermiston Gait. Cross the track just before Edinburgh Park station, turn left and follow Lochside Road around clockwise until you reach the first of the two culverts (the one with the stream) beneath the bypass. Head through it, continue uphill along the gravelly road/path and you reach Gogar Station Road.

    If you go past the airport then Ingliston Road/Fairview Road are slightly quieter and less evil than the main airport road from the double-roundabout junction.

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  4. @Claire Thanks, South Gyle Station might be a bit too far North for me. But I think if the weather is good at the weekend I may go investigate (my next flight is next Friday).

    @wingpig That looks very useful, I wouldn't have found the culvert.

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  5. @Claire Looking at the map again, the route form South Gyle station looks quite good, and less of a detour than my first reaction, if I can work out how to get there from the Craiglockhart or Morningside area...

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  6. Claire
    Member

    Ah yes, the secret underpass! I only found that about two months ago on a Belles ride. Good shout.

    @stephan, yeah it could be a bit too north. If it was me I'd come down Morningside and through Dalry and then take the quietway 10 all the way out to South Gyle station and use the cut through. Will be slower than a dedicated path but that is my regular route into Meadows so feels "safe" for me!

    Edit: so to make that clearer. Come down morningside, take the right turn at the King's Theatre, pass the Leamington bridge, cut down past Fountainbridge via Telfer Subway, down Russell Road to Roseburn Park, then quietway 10 to station. Bob's your uncle :)

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  7. SRD
    Moderator

    Russell Road/Roseburn easier to access from Harrison Rd? It's basically a straight shot down, across Slateford & Dalry Rds.

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  8. @Claire Hmm, somebody should build a cycle path between Russell Rd and Fountainbridge, perhaps with a bridge over Dalry Rd...

    Yes, that route could also work. I don't mind if it is a bit longer. I'm actually not quite sure what I'm looking for. It doesn't have to be off-road all the way, I guess I basically want to avoid big/busy/complex junctions and too many turns and stops.

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  9. cb
    Member

    Is Roseburn to Gyle not route 9 rather than 10?

    The few times I've cycled Morningside to the Gyle I've found that going Myreside Road, Ashley Terrace, Slatefrod Road, Hutchison Crossway, Balgreen Road then the quiet route worked best for me.

    For public transport from The Inch, why not take the 38 and switch to the tram at Balgreen or Airport Bus at the Glasgow Road? Misses out the city centre entirely.

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  10. chrisfl
    Member

    Just been having a play with different options for this route. As other have said at 10am on a Friday the canal is a great option. I've had a bit of a play using cycle.travel to play with a route and came up with this: http://cycle.travel/map/journey/19342

    I did actually manage to completly avoid Eastfield Road. Also worth noting I went for the more Northern route under the bypass that does involve a muddy/bumpy field.

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  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Stephan

    Hermitage then canal at Myreside and Gogar Station Road. Don't miss the snicket down the railway line for a top urban MTB experience.

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  12. Claire
    Member

    @cb Yes, my bad. It's route 9. Apologies!

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  13. fimm
    Member

    How about this as an alternative route from the canal?
    http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6807642
    That's the way I went when I cycled to the airport (having cycled straight up the Calder Road, IIRC - but this was early on a Saturday morning...)

    (OT: I was actually going to a Triathlon Scotland women's cycling skills training day, held on the little tarmac off-road area there - is that the Highland Show ground? I was a bit shocked when one of the participants expressed surprise that I'd cycled a whole 8 miles to get there...)

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  14. Claire
    Member

    @fimm LOL - I did a skills session there once, too. I was the only person that had cycled there... 0_o

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  15. @fimm Oh that looks interesting. Might try that!

    Thanks all for suggestions. Seems that the canal route is generally best, although my next return flight is on a Sunday afternoon and if the weather is fine it will be too busy. I guess I'll have to check out a few different when I have time to see what's best at which times of the day.

    I liked the canal even though it's perhaps not the shortest route, but without any junctions and lights I could just go at a steady speed and didn't have to check directions all the time. Very good after a long long day of meetings, then hours at Heathrow, a delayed plane, Edinburgh airport not finding the right steps for the type of plane, and my head exploding from a dehydration/tiredness migraine...

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  16. neddie
    Member

    I can see there are 40 cycle parking spaces showing at the Airport on OSM maps.

    But what is the parking like?

    Is well-used and overlooked? Will your bike get vandalised, stolen or blown up? Is it Sheffield stands or wheel-benders etc.?

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  17. @edd1e_h see my first post:

    "I'm not worried about leaving the bike there for a few days - if somebody drives a van through the barriers and starts their angle grinder to cut the lock, I'm sure the bloke with the machine gun who's standing next to the bike rack might have a word with them..."

    They are Sheffield stands under a roof. Not terribly many but enough last time.

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  18. @edd1e_h to clarify: They are inside the safety perimeter (crash barriers), so you won't get the quick angle grinder / back of a van theft.

    They are near the entrance to the departure checkin area, next to the path from the big car park to the entrance. While there aren't many cyclists, there a loads of people walking around all the time, but they are not in the way so that people are tempted to kick a bike just for fun.

    Also, being next to the entrance, there is usually security there, and presumably plenty of cameras. Several times I've seen a police van parked right in front of the racks.

    I actually think the bike is safer there than in a shed at home.

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  19. Ed1
    Member

    I was there 2 weeks ago there is Sheffield stands with a roof, just opposite the area staff smoke near the doors just behind the drop off area, not sure if meant to use it was only about 4 things enough for may be 8 bikes, but was only one other bike there. As overlooked and constantly staff in and out would think be as relatively safe. I would guess but may be wrong that for a bike thief would not be an ideal place to as always police and a cameras and things.

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  20. @edd1e_h and @Ed1 On the other hand, I wonder if airport staff remove bikes that are left there for too long. Shouldn't be an issue for the typical short business trips but if I have to leave the bike for more than a week, I should perhaps check with the airport? On the other hand, for longer trips I would likely have too much luggage and take the tram anyway.

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  21. neddie
    Member

    Why does OSM show 20 spaces, if there are only 8?

    https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/55.94766/-3.36472&layers=C

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  22. @edd1e_h "Why does OSM show 20 spaces, if there are only 8?"

    I didn't count them but I think there are about 8-10 Sheffield stands under a roof. In OSM, there is some confusion as the guideline says you should assign 2 spaces to each stand (as you can lock one bike on each side). This is probably where the 20 comes from.

    In reality, it may not be possible to get so many bikes in there if the stands are too close together. I think the ones at the airport were ok though.

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  23. @Ed1 Only 4? I'm pretty sure there were more (but I last used them in June so I could be mistaken).

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  24. I asked through the airport contact website if it's a problem to leave a bike there for more than a few days, or if they would think it's abandoned and remove it. Got the reply:

    "If you could send us a picture of your bicycle and the times and dates it will be left for so that we can keep an eye on it as well as pass this info to the security that way your bicycle will not be moved by them or ourself's ."

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  25. So this is what I did in the end.

    Friday, 4 March. Flight at 12.30. Started at home around 10.00, along Braid Burn, then Greenbank Rd, Glenlockhart Rd, Canal, Gogar Station Rd. Offroad parts very quiet, Roads not too busy. I had planned to avoid Glenlockhart Rd but I was a bit late and didn't want to get lost in Cormiston. I didn't find the path to the Canal at Craiglockhart and ended up under the aquaeduct, somebody advised me to go along Lanark Rd. It was about 17km and took 58 minutes.

    Today, Sun 13 March, plane landed at 11.00. The weather was fine and I expected the canal to be busy, and also I was hungry and wanted to eat something on the way. I considered Roseburn Cafe for lunch but then decided to eat at the Zoo instead.

    Despite all your very helpful suggestions I just went along Glasgow Rd and Corstorphine Rd. I had a long week with lots of running around and also caught various international flu viruses on the way, so I didn't feel like fuffing around unfamiliar backstreets and obscure footpaths full of dog walkers where I would get lost, I just wanted a fairly straight route to go at a slow but steady pace.

    Glasgow Rd up to Maybury Rd the shared pavement was fine, but then I had to go on the road (bus lane). Glasgow Rd and Corstorphine Rd were incredibly busy, a constant stream of cars. The bus lane had only a few cars, but it tended to be the aggressive/impatient drivers who used it. Wasn't great.

    From the zoo I used the Pinkhill path and then what my GPS told me (under the railway behind the stadium and then I think Westfield Rd, Robertson Av, Ashley Terr, Myreside Rd, Balcarres...). It was fairly quiet but up and down all the time and quite exhausting.

    It took just over 2 hours (inc. lunch, probably about 1.20 cycling time, arrived home at 1.15), about 19km.

    So, the Braidburn-Canal route was mostly good for quiet times, but I need to find an alternative for sunny weekends. Traffic on Sunday didn't bother me too much, but backstreets with lots of turns and corners and junctions and uphills/downhills sections was just exhausting when you want to get home. The Braiburn-Canal route of course allowed a steady pace without stopping.

    If somebody could build a protected bike lane along all the major roads, that would really help.

    Finally, I solved the mystery of the number of bike racks at the airport. @Ed1 you're right that there are 5 racks under the roof, but there are actually two roofs a few metres apart, each with 5 racks, so that explains the 20 in OSM. I had also only remembered one shed...

    The bike was as I had left it, even the soggy tissue which I use as ad-hoc theft deterrant was still draped over the handlebar.

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  26. .. oh and despite not feeling great, cycling was much less stressful and exhausting and much faster than previous journeys with the airport bus & local buses (involves a lot of waiting on Sundays...)

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  27. Ok, this time I found the Braidburn-Craiglockhart-Union canal connection. Cycled out on Friday ca 5am-6am (58 minutes), back Monday 6.20-7.30pm (1:12).

    When you cycle to the airport, have answers ready to the following questions:
    1.) Isn't that too far?
    2.) What if you have a puncture?

    So many people asked me that I'm going to print leaflets for next time with the replies:

    1.) It takes much less time than the bus and only a few minutes longer than the taxi.

    2.) With good tyres I haven't had a puncture in 2 years, and in any case it only takes 5-10 minutes to repair. Put slime into the tube and you don't even have to stop.

    In fact the first puncture that I had for 2 years was on Friday morning on the way to the airport. Heard a short "pfffft", but the slime closed it immediately. Heard another pfffft on the way back yesterday, but the tyre was still at almost full pressure when I came home. To be fair, the tyre was old, had a lot of cuts and was worn down to the kevlar lining, I meant to replace it a while ago but never found the time.

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  28. ... and you don't see a badger when you take the bus or taxi. We had a bit of a standoff as it wasn't obvious if the canal at dawn is badger or cyclist territory and who had the right of way.

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  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Stephan

    Were the puncture and the standoff with the needle-toothed mustelid connected?

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  30. @IWRATS Hmm, the puncture was shortly after meeting the badger. Going to check the citybadgeredinburgh.info forum to see if the badgers are discussing the incident and are plotting any anti-cycling counter measures...

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