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'Edinburgh compared with Berlin'

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  1. chdot
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    There may have been cycle lanes on some roads but we didn’t notice any. Most cyclists, many of them tourists, seemed to manage on the wide roads and pavements without incident. In fact, the very width of roads and pavements kept the traffic moving without the choking congestion we suffer here from the ludicrous narrowing of arterial routes.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/helen-martin-we-could-learn-so-much-from-a-german-lesson-1-4068392

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. PS
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    There may have been cycle lanes on some roads but we didn’t notice any.

    I think they tend to be on the (wide) pavements in German cities (although usually well-marked, and well-used and respected) or, on the wider boulevards, as a separate stretch of tarmac next to the road with the pavement being further away from the carriageway behind line of trees.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. PS
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    A bit of an odd piece, that. She hasn't done any research into how Berlin is run or paid for, or indeed who is investing in all that new architecture, but "there are certainly lessons to be learned from" there?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. dougal
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    @PS because cities work by magic and roads don't fill up if you make them wider. QED.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. minus six
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    Doesn't sound like she ventured very far from her overpriced hotel in Mitte

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Min
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    We returned from a five-night break to Berlin to find Edinburgh’s festival organisers complaining about how the city failed to meet tourist expectations on cleanliness.

    Yet the first thing we noticed about Germany’s capital was the complete absence of litter.

    It doesn't matter how often I read those two paragraphs, they still don't make sense. Are the Edinburgh Festival organisers complaining about cleanliness in Berlin?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. "In fact, the very width of roads and pavements kept the traffic moving without the choking congestion we suffer here from the ludicrous narrowing of arterial routes"

    GAH! I presume a bus lane counts as 'narrowing'? But referring to is as 'ludicrous', and mentioning the streets are 'arterial' really betrays the views of the writer.

    "Of course residents might pay higher taxes for all I know. Perhaps local government has access to more funding. Housing rents could be higher"

    Might + Perhaps + Could = I couldn't be bothered to research those points, which might actually give a complete view as to just how Berlin can afford to be pothole free. Nor am I going to look at relative traffic figures and options. Am I'm going to suggest that Edinburgh could save money for tourists, with two of my examples being a cheap bottle of wine from Lidl (something the council has no control over); and a tourist tax (which personally I think is a good idea, but if you're premise is that Edinburgh should be cheaper for tourists then suggesting one way to help the city is to make them pay more, you're straying into weird oxymoron territory).

    Such a randomly mixed up, directionless, non-fact-checked piece. 2/10.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. minus six
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