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"Queensferry Crossing project ‘months behind schedule’ "
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Posted 8 years ago #
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poor weather over recent months being blamed
U WOT ?
Posted 8 years ago # -
"Given the recent closure of the existing bridge, any delay will be a serious concern to commuters. The SNP needs to be open with them so everyone has a clear picture of what is going on."
Aye sure because people are making commuting decisions based on a bridge that wasn't even scheduled to open yet, by even the most optimistic of timelines.
Posted 8 years ago # -
One staff source said:
Transport spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives, said:
IWRATS said:
Posted 8 years ago # -
Though I always want to bash the SNP, I don't think it will matter an iota. Lots of huge projects go over schedule/over budget and 10 years later no-one gives a hoot if the final results looks good and serves its function.
Instances that come to mind:-
Sydney Opera House
Holyrood Parliament
Edinburgh Tram
[Queensferry Bridge]When the UK was producing a load of industrial masterpieces not only did they go over schedule and over budget quite a few blokes would be killed making them.
Posted 8 years ago # -
"poor weather over recent months being blamed
U WOT ?"
The press release was possibly written before last month's election but embargoed until now.
Posted 8 years ago # -
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The Queensferry Crossing will open up to six months late, economy secretary Keith Brown announced today.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/queensferry-crossing-opening-delayed-1-4149089
So, another 6 months to get all necessary cycle infrastructure in place...
Posted 8 years ago # -
Aye, there's no doubt they'll be scrutinising the National Transport Strategy right now
The job's not over til the spend fits the Sustainable Transport Hierarchy
God bless Transport Scotland !
Posted 8 years ago # -
poor weather over recent months being blamed
U WOT ?
Wind.
It's been windy. And I will bet that the wind strength required to stop work is less than that to close the existing Bridge.Posted 8 years ago # -
Aye, our sunshine addled brains have forgotten all that crap weather in the "spring" this year.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Seen on Twitter:-
"Re Queensferry Crossing delays, SNP are underpromising to overdeliver. No chance it'll be 6 months late. This happened with FRB repairs too"
Posted 8 years ago # -
The contractual completion date is 6 months after the Dec' 2016 target anyway.
Posted 8 years ago # -
U WOT ?
I read that as being "of course there has been bad weather, there always is".
My first thought was "only 6 months? Pfft"
Posted 8 years ago # -
Were we not promised jetpacks?
Posted 8 years ago # -
SNP are underpromising to overdeliver
that was my first thought also
if we're running a sweep, put me down for Easter weekend 2017
Posted 8 years ago # -
bet that the wind strength required to stop work is less than that to close the existing Bridge
sure, if you check the graph on this page
http://www.forthroadbridge.org/travel/wind-and-weather/
they down tools when it gusts over 45mph
(the yellow line)
Posted 8 years ago # -
if we're running a sweep, put me down for Easter weekend 2017
50p on April 6th.
Posted 8 years ago # -
"Were we not promised jetpacks?"
You only receive those after 25 years' loyal service to The Party.
(Unless you're a pesky cyclist in which case you'll get a free bus pass for one year only).
Posted 8 years ago # -
So the delays are nothing to do with them being short of workers and having to bring them in from Lithuania?
Posted 8 years ago # -
This still on time/budget?
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is scheduled to open by December 2016
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Posted 8 years ago # -
According to the sign outside it, that I pass nightly it is!
Posted 8 years ago # -
This still on time/budget?
I understand that it is.
Posted 8 years ago # -
From Alistair Dalton's piece in the Hootsmon:
"The most significant bonuses brought by the new structure include a hard shoulder beside each carriageway, which should cut delays caused by breakdowns and crashes.
The crossing will also be a 70mph motorway, unlike the previously 50mph Forth Road Bridge (now 40mph because of the roadworks).
Windproofing should mean it never closes, in contrast to the frequent restrictions hampering drivers, especially over recent winters."
So, hard shoulders but no facilities for pedestrians nor cyclists? It's now very transparent this hugely expensive project was about upgrading the bridge to a motorway rather than an emergency replacement...
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I thought the idea was to keep the current bridge open for cyclists.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Spokes did request pedestrian/cyclist routes across the new bridge. Nae luck.
I understand that the old one will be open for public transport only as well as peds/cyclists but it could end up as an alternative for drivers. Expand the roads, expand the number of cards.
Posted 8 years ago # -
My understanding too re the current bridge being our only way, but my concern is that even with minimal load it will require maintenance and inspections. I can imagine a government wanting to cut costs in the future and us being left with nothing.
Posted 8 years ago # -
@paddyirish - I can foresee shrieks about maintaining a big expensive bridge for a minority...
OTOH the Forth Road Bridge is an iconic structure and has to be kept maintained, as much as Edinburgh Castle.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Maybe they'll improve the pathetic narrow pavement approach to the bridge from the north side once the car traffic moves to the new one. We can but hope.
Posted 8 years ago # -
I wonder if they will be arranging an opening party/festival and if so will they allow pedestrian/cycle access across the bridge before it opens?
Posted 8 years ago # -
@acsimpson
It would be great to storm the bridge en masse.
I have an apocalyptic fantasy about cycling along the M6 through the Lake District.
Motorways have lovely, easy gradients, which cyclists need more than the internal combuster.
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