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"Queensferry Crossing project ‘months behind schedule’ "

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  1. chdot
    Admin

  2. bax
    Member

    poor weather over recent months being blamed

    U WOT ?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. dougal
    Member

    "Given the recent closure of the existing bridge, any delay will be a serious concern to commuters. The SNP needs to be open with them so everyone has a clear picture of what is going on."

    Aye sure because people are making commuting decisions based on a bridge that wasn't even scheduled to open yet, by even the most optimistic of timelines.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    One staff source said:

    Transport spokesman for the Scottish Conservatives, said:

    IWRATS said:

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Rosie
    Member

    Though I always want to bash the SNP, I don't think it will matter an iota. Lots of huge projects go over schedule/over budget and 10 years later no-one gives a hoot if the final results looks good and serves its function.

    Instances that come to mind:-
    Sydney Opera House
    Holyrood Parliament
    Edinburgh Tram
    [Queensferry Bridge]

    When the UK was producing a load of industrial masterpieces not only did they go over schedule and over budget quite a few blokes would be killed making them.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. acsimpson
    Member

    "poor weather over recent months being blamed

    U WOT ?"

    The press release was possibly written before last month's election but embargoed until now.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    The Queensferry Crossing will open up to six months late, economy secretary Keith Brown announced today.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/queensferry-crossing-opening-delayed-1-4149089

    So, another 6 months to get all necessary cycle infrastructure in place...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. bax
    Member

    Aye, there's no doubt they'll be scrutinising the National Transport Strategy right now

    The job's not over til the spend fits the Sustainable Transport Hierarchy

    God bless Transport Scotland !

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    poor weather over recent months being blamed

    U WOT ?
    Wind.
    It's been windy. And I will bet that the wind strength required to stop work is less than that to close the existing Bridge.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    Aye, our sunshine addled brains have forgotten all that crap weather in the "spring" this year.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Rosie
    Member

    Seen on Twitter:-

    "Re Queensferry Crossing delays, SNP are underpromising to overdeliver. No chance it'll be 6 months late. This happened with FRB repairs too"

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The contractual completion date is 6 months after the Dec' 2016 target anyway.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. Min
    Member

    U WOT ?

    I read that as being "of course there has been bad weather, there always is".

    My first thought was "only 6 months? Pfft"

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Were we not promised jetpacks?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. bax
    Member

    SNP are underpromising to overdeliver

    that was my first thought also

    if we're running a sweep, put me down for Easter weekend 2017

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. bax
    Member

    bet that the wind strength required to stop work is less than that to close the existing Bridge

    sure, if you check the graph on this page

    http://www.forthroadbridge.org/travel/wind-and-weather/

    they down tools when it gusts over 45mph

    (the yellow line)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    if we're running a sweep, put me down for Easter weekend 2017

    50p on April 6th.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    "Were we not promised jetpacks?"

    You only receive those after 25 years' loyal service to The Party.

    (Unless you're a pesky cyclist in which case you'll get a free bus pass for one year only).

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. Fountainbridge
    Member

    So the delays are nothing to do with them being short of workers and having to bring them in from Lithuania?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    This still on time/budget?

    "

    is scheduled to open by December 2016

    "

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Gateway_station

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. Brunts23
    Member

    According to the sign outside it, that I pass nightly it is!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. PS
    Member

    This still on time/budget?

    I understand that it is.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. crowriver
    Member

    From Alistair Dalton's piece in the Hootsmon:

    "The most significant bonuses brought by the new structure include a hard shoulder beside each carriageway, which should cut delays caused by breakdowns and crashes.

    The crossing will also be a 70mph motorway, unlike the previously 50mph Forth Road Bridge (now 40mph because of the roadworks).

    Windproofing should mean it never closes, in contrast to the frequent restrictions hampering drivers, especially over recent winters."

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/alastair-dalton-queensferry-crossing-will-be-worth-waiting-for-1-4150784

    So, hard shoulders but no facilities for pedestrians nor cyclists? It's now very transparent this hugely expensive project was about upgrading the bridge to a motorway rather than an emergency replacement...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. redmist
    Member

    I thought the idea was to keep the current bridge open for cyclists.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. Rosie
    Member

    Spokes did request pedestrian/cyclist routes across the new bridge. Nae luck.

    I understand that the old one will be open for public transport only as well as peds/cyclists but it could end up as an alternative for drivers. Expand the roads, expand the number of cards.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  26. paddyirish
    Member

    My understanding too re the current bridge being our only way, but my concern is that even with minimal load it will require maintenance and inspections. I can imagine a government wanting to cut costs in the future and us being left with nothing.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. Rosie
    Member

    @paddyirish - I can foresee shrieks about maintaining a big expensive bridge for a minority...

    OTOH the Forth Road Bridge is an iconic structure and has to be kept maintained, as much as Edinburgh Castle.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. redmist
    Member

    Maybe they'll improve the pathetic narrow pavement approach to the bridge from the north side once the car traffic moves to the new one. We can but hope.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. acsimpson
    Member

    I wonder if they will be arranging an opening party/festival and if so will they allow pedestrian/cycle access across the bridge before it opens?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. Rosie
    Member

    @acsimpson

    It would be great to storm the bridge en masse.

    I have an apocalyptic fantasy about cycling along the M6 through the Lake District.

    Motorways have lovely, easy gradients, which cyclists need more than the internal combuster.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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