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Community Links PLUS design competition

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  1. Frenchy
    Member

    Hmmmm....uphill only?

    I'm wondering if buses will be able to go round the corners at the top of The Mound if there were segregated cycle lanes on both sides.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. HankChief
    Member

    My assumption is that they have secured funding with some high level plans.

    The first part of the 5 year window will be spent engaging with stakeholders to come up with the detailed designs.

    So 'we' can feed in our thoughts but don't be surprised if others feed in theirs...

    The big question is how robust the council will be in dealing with requests to 'compromise' from other road users. Hopefully as the funding is for an exemplar project it should give them some ammo not to compromise too much.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    It's a tight corner right enough.

    Might have to be alternate flow for buses and closed to private cars.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Can we get specific comments on the M2GS project over on its own thread?

    And keep this for general comments about the competition and all projects?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    What's Sustrans' involvement from here on?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. HankChief
    Member

    Frenchy - I assume the fundibg isn't unconditional so they will be working with CEC to ensure the high standard is maintained.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/cycling-network-will-transform-travel-in-the-city-1-4563673

    Thought this was interesting.

    Motorist group IAM Roadsmart said:“At IAM RoadSmart we support the development of segregated cycle and pedestrian facilities as this is the only way to deliver a truly safe system where road users can feel confident in their daily journeys no matter how they choose to complete them.

    “We shall be monitoring the success of these projects with interest but in our view, re-engineering roads is likely to much more successful than simply applying blanket 20mph speed limits.

    “In Holland it took many decades to transform their towns and cities into the cycle friendly environments we see today. These projects are the start of a long process of change that will require sustained investment."

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    EEN opinion:

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/cycle-lanes-need-a-balancing-act-1-4563719

    "The trouble of course comes in carving out space for these new bike lanes. That can be fiendishly tricky in a busy and historic city like Edinburgh."

    Hmm. Plenty of room given over to cars in this busy and historic city.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    Well that's a nice bit of welcome news.

    It's good to see another city centre route, and also to see a route in the rather hostile west of Edinburgh. Anyone know what the routes in Inversneggie and Stirling will be like?

    Naturally the naysaying motorists will be out in force in Edinburgh over the next wee while: already getting some warning shots in via the EEN, I see.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    I suppose one other thing to remember is this is only one year's worth of funding awards. If Scottish government keep this up until the next election, then potentially quite a few more Edinburgh schemes could be funded through Community Links Plus...

    What might they be? Roseburn-Leith? Musselburgh-Portobello?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Edinburgh Council's Traffic Madness

    ( https://www.facebook.com/pg/EdinburghCouncilsTrafficMadness/about )

    With only 3% of Edinburgh's population traveling by bicycle in summer, falling to less than 0.03% in the wet, windy months of autumn, winter and spring, it is clear that this tiny minority place their interests above everyone else, including those in dire need of social care, care that they have been denied due to the political posturing of this tiny minority. Virtually nobody travells by bike, unless housebreaking and robbery is your thing. Banish these idiots to the playground where they belong and save £millions in reduced congestion and travel times for carers and everyone else trying to get around.

    "

    Fortunately there are people willing to brave the EN comments section with better facts.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/12m-dedicated-cycling-network-to-be-installed-in-edinburgh-1-4563673#comments-area

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. steveo
    Member

    Roll on the closure of Johnston Press...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "Roll on the closure of Johnston Press..."

    At least the comments section has got better now that JP is using the FB login system.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. steveo
    Member

    Much better I can't see the comments at work!

    I'm guessing the sock puppets have dried up and people are a little more careful about inciting violence when they can be tracked to their door?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Roll on the closure of Johnston Press...

    They have now jumped the shark.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. tammytroot
    Member

    Malcolm Parkin is a retired nutter.. He lives in Kinross.
    Kinross has my sympathies.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. Stickman
    Member

    Let's not be too harsh on Johnston Press; they can write good leaders like this:

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/leader-comment-segregated-cycle-routes-can-benefit-motorists-too-1-4563702

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. acsimpson
    Member

    At least the comments section has got better now that JP is using the FB login system.

    Although I suspect a few fake accounts (especially company pages) may have been created in the last few weeks.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. neddie
    Member

    "Edinburgh Council's Traffic Madness" is previous prolific EEN commenteer.

    I forget his/her old EEN handle, but they were always going on about "carers" being able (or not) to drive everywhere. And general anti-cycling

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    I have a few carers who are customers. It amazes me more don't cycle (normal or ebike); they have to pay for all their own car ownership costs and fuel, on minimal wages. They really are living in car poverty.

    I sold a carer a Gazelle a while back. She keeps coming in and saying it's the best £600 she ever spent.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    Once again I see that the non-paying cyclists are getting priority over the heavily fee-paying motorists.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/letters-readers-debate-the-new-12m-cycle-investment-in-edinburgh-1-4566432

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. Blueth
    Member

    Let's try snd be fair. Have you not noticed all those cars stuck in jams occupied by "social carers".

    What a very strange hook on which to hang an argument.

    I have, though, seen one such round my way daring to use a bicycle.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    https://twitter.com/SustransScot/status/937675137087918080

    "Groundbreaking of the South City Way with @HumzaYousaf @AnnaLangside and @Daisynmurphy Once complete the #CLPLUS route will link Victoria Park to #Glasgow City centre #scw"

    Posted 11 months ago #
  24. Morningsider
    Member

    A cycling scheme that moves from planning to construction in a few months! What sorcery is this? A good five year wait is surely the natural order of things.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  25. Arellcat
    Moderator

    That is Glasgow. Something like that, anyway.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  26. HankChief
    Member

    How did they get through the TRO process so quickly?

    Did they have the designs already to go?

    Anyone know?

    Posted 11 months ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    January 2018 Guidance and criteria for the 2018-19 Community Links Programme released

    https://www.sustrans.org.uk/scotland/community-links

    Also list/map of current projects.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  28. toomanybikes
    Member

    According to the top of page 6, we should have had an announcement of 10 shortlisted projects last week, with 5 to ultimately be awarded funding

    https://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_content_type/113.01.2018-_community_links_plus_guide_web_small.pdf

    Posted 4 months ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    "should be announced in the next couple weeks" - Sustrans Scotland on twitter.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  30. toomanybikes
    Member

    Nice one.

    I hope Edinburgh's put a bid in despite the back log of current works. The deadline for this competition's winners to be completed is 2023, and M2GS and WEATN are due to be completed Autumn 2021. Otherwise, barring a (probably quite likely) shake up of the competition, it'll be 2025 before we can get any more infrastructure out of it.

    Posted 4 months ago #

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