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Bikes used as advertising

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  • Started 8 years ago by Stickman
  • Latest reply from dessert rat

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  1. Stickman
    Member

    It's been mentioned here before about old bikes being used for advertising. The Cafe Tartine Facebook page documents their battle with a "concerned local resident":

    https://m.facebook.com/cafetartine.edinburgh/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. neddie
    Member

    Maybe rule should be that advertising bike must be in regular use for deliveries. Keep everyone happy...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Klaxon
    Member

    I'm not keen on clearly abandoned bikes, advertising or not. Weather and vandals quickly get the better of them and they become a sign of neglect.

    If it's being moved inside during closed hours and being kept in a serviceable condition, not much you can do, it's just a normal bike at that point. No different from parking a liveried car somewhere.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. Fountainbridge
    Member

    What are the council rules (or law) on padlocking a bike to street infrastructure? Can't say I know of any either way.

    When does a bike become an advertising board?

    Living Streets are pushing for a review of the advertising boards policy which would probably include bike based advertising.

    Where do you draw the line?

    Devils advocate:-

    The primary purpose of the bike is as an advertising board. As such it is outside the specification of said advertising boards:-

    • Only one A-board is permitted per premises.
    • A-board sizes should not exceed 1.0 metres in height (From the top of the footway to the top of the board) and 0.75 metres in width.
    • The A-board must be placed directly outside the frontage of the business, either against the building or adjacent to the kerb.
    • At least 1.4 metres of footway width must remain clear for pedestrians at all times.
    • If the premises hold a Tables and Chairs Permit, the A-board must be displayed within the area allocated for tables and chairs. A-boards are not permitted in tables and chairs areas on any of the streets listed above.
    • A-boards must be kept clear of service ducts and access chambers. They should be free standing and not attached to items of street furniture or fixed to the footway.
    • A-boards must be visible to the partially sighted and should not be placed on the footway during darkness or in the event of inclement weather, especially during windy conditions.

    So it would be up to the council to remove the bike and not the police - unless there's another argument I've missed

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Morningsider
    Member

    Fountainbridge - the Control of Advertisement (Scotland) Regulations 1984 exempts vehicles from the need to obtain permission to display adverts. However, this exemption does not apply to "...advertisements displayed on any such vehicle or vessel during any period when it is being used primarily for the display of advertisements".

    What constitutes "primarily for the display of advertisements" is open to interpretation - but would probably cover most parked-up advert bikes, vehicle trailers etc. that you see.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. le_soigneur
    Member

    In that case the multiple bikes of Pedal Power in Leith would also fall foul of the rules.
    Personally I quite like them, they've been there for a couple of years now, stay in good nick & I wish they'd been there when I got a tyre-hole on Lindsay St a few years ago.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    What constitutes "primarily for the display of advertisements" is open to interpretation

    A bicycle with flat tyres and no functioning drive train (as these so often are) could not be used for the purposes of transport so I would say is arguably primarily for the display of advertisements.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Roibeard
    Member

    I'm mildly irritated by the advertisement "bike" (answering to Kaputnik's description) on the Royal Mile up from John Knox's house.

    There is little enough bike parking on that stretch and having effectively an A-board permanently chained there is unhelpful.

    The salt in the wound is that it advertises bike tours!

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    BikeTrax's advert-bike on the racks near the Cameo is technically unrideable for anyone of normal leg length as its board protrudes upwards of the crossbar in the region of the seatpost.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. dougal
    Member

    Any advert tied to a bike rack during the day is clearly just someone with nae shame. BikeTrax at the Cameo, Rig on Buchanan Street, I'm sure there are others.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Fountainbridge
    Member

    Leith Walk, obstructing dropped crossing

    160809164049IMG_6340 by Paul fae Fountainbridge, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Rob
    Member

    Hadn't seen one of these before yesterday morning:

    EDIT: that's some kind of electronic screen.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Copy of email to CEC

    "

    I am really grateful for all the extra bike parking which has been introduced in the city centre recently.

    But, as you'll know, the increasing number of cyclists means bike parking is still under pressure and we need more spaces, not less.

    That's why I am hoping you can do something to tackle the scourge of abandoned bikes being used as advertising hoardings.

    This one is in St Andrew Square and takes up a valuable space.

    Forth Tours wouldn't be allowed to put an A board in a prominent position like this!

    I would be very grateful if you could contact them and ask for it to be removed.

    Thanks in advance.

    David

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. dessert rat
    Member

    Apropos of not much ... café Tartine bike update.

    I see it most days. Still there untampered with. However not fairing too well with the weather. The shiny rims and chrome extras not looking too happy. It's well on the way to looking like a shabby chic version of the local Pedal Forth advert steeds.

    It would be better taken into hibernation until spring. It's going to be a long winter for the poor thing.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Funnily enough, I was just commenting to my daughter that it was looking pretty rusty & grotty when we passed it at the weekend.

    Is he really taking it in and putting it back out again every day as he claims he is, or is it now permanently attached?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. dessert rat
    Member

    Cafe Tartine is no more. Their hovis bike chained to the railings on the bridge over WoL on Commercial St now has a CEC removal noticed on it - just wondering what happens to them once removed, hoping they go a happy place, but unconvinced.

    For anyone interested in recovering/reviving it, (it's done 4 winters there), it's not the strongest looking lock.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    The council gives abandoned bikes to Brake the Cycle.

    "The Brake the Cycle Scheme is a recycling project which takes old and unwanted bikes that are then repaired or serviced by offenders on Community Payback Orders. The bikes are then given away for free to community organisations, youth groups and schools."

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. dessert rat
    Member

    and its gone ...

    Posted 4 years ago #

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