"Test of where we want to go on the future"
'Edinburgh already decades behind other cities'
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"Test of where we want to go on the future"
'Edinburgh already decades behind other cities'
'hope all groups will engage in good faith'
Aye right!
Having seen their blocking tactics rewarded, there is not much incentive for the KNS brigade to back down.
Now history lesson from Chas Booth.
Copenhagen and Amsterdam - "Investment and political leadership"
'Got the investment'...
Chas Booth extremely impressive here.
Not sure at this point I can put a 2 in any candidate's box next year.
Chas was stellar and I wish he was able to represent every ward.
Nick Gardner (Lab) backs Option A - and the traders.
'hope all groups will engage in good faith'
Being told to 'b*gger off' must be some type of good faith I wasn't previously aware of.
Chas is a very good guy.
Somebody just said 'representative of the taxi community'.
Even the tories are getting in on the action. "It's only responsible to do nothing as opinions are split."
East-west cycle route is dead.
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Have there been any arguments in favour of Option B, or just ones against Option A/everything?
Balfour is still barking back to the original consultation.
See my earlier post.
He's to blame for this.
Scheme A would cause problems. The current situation doesn't?
Ambulances won't get through. The ambulance service's written objections must currently be stuck at Roseburn.
"East-west cycle route is dead."
Not true.
Tory councillor (Cook?) believes Options A and B have equal merits. As with everything else said, these shared/equal merits not actually made explicit.
Balfour (Con) believes Option B is not second-class citizen.
Barrie (SNP) believes only lycra louts can use cycle paths.
"The current situation doesn't?"
Only for cyclists and pedestrians, And who the hell cares about them?
As long as drivers are happy, all's well with the world. Right folks?
Isn't Balfour also the one who circulated misleading info to the school. Very dodgy.
So, the council gets to take the easy route out and everyone else loses out.
Peter's Roseburn mob will I assume be ecstatic for now. But they're about to get 100s of new flats in the old Donaldsons, thousands of new houses being built to the west around Maybury, the "International Gateway", the "Garden District" and thousands of new parking spaces going in to the new St. James development. That's thousands of extra potential single occupant car journeys, weekday and weekend. And Roseburn is sat in the middle of it all. And sadly everyone has to just muddle on through and see the inevitable results of inaction develop.
Of course people will still cycle. But many more will chose not to. And Roseburn will still be on the most polluted street in Scotland, it's local traders will still suffer, as the picture framer pointed out to me, from the effects of an interminable economic downturn combined with a street location that few people chose to visit.
The pubs will be fine. Their proximity to both Tynecastle and Murrayfield will inevitably save them from the reaper's scythe of pub alcohol taxation and more people drinking at home.
Genuine question
Is the 'bottleneck' at Corstorphine better/worse/similar to Roseburn at present?
Is traffic (inc buses) held up more in C or R?
Is the 'bottleneck' at Corstorphine better/worse/similar to Roseburn at present?
They're possibly different things. Roseburn is a bottleneck of both street width but also people trying to make a right turn towards Roseburn Street / Russell Road and coming the opposite direction cutting along Roseburn Place as a Rat Run.
Corstorphine more of a straight-through bottleneck along the narrower sections of the high street.
I thought making a decision was supposed to be the point of the meeting, Lesley? That was the very top line of the meeting report - we recommend the councillors select A or B.
God, I hate Hinds. Odious woman.
This city really is the pits.
Mind-numbingly gutless.
Edinburgh needs to stop resting on its world-heritage festival-destination laurels, wake up and smell the latte.
Other cities around the world, from Dublin to Bogota, London to New York, Paris to Dubrovnik, are simply leaving us behind when it comes to thinking seriously about improving their cities and making them less dependent on cars and lorries.
But in Edinburgh one person spouting spurious, dubious and in some cases outright untrue claims, can convince a vocal local minority to shout even louder, and the Council crumbles...
Useless.
LH slagging off Greens for wanting to make a decision today.
Useful to hide the fact that maybe this scheme (A/B/other) wasn't ready for a decision!
Derailed by political cave-in to dubious campaigning.
Hot air = polluted air
Vocal protest about selling off buses.
"Corstorphine more of a straight-through bottleneck along the narrower sections of the high street."
The right turn up Clermiston Road creates a similar issue. Or at the very least seems to confuse the hell out of people as to which lane they should be in.
The good news is that decision implies that all parties agree with 10% of transport budget being spent on cycling.
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