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T&E committee on Roseburn

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  • Started 8 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "Test of where we want to go on the future"

    'Edinburgh already decades behind other cities'

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. crowriver
    Member

    'hope all groups will engage in good faith'

    Aye right!

    Having seen their blocking tactics rewarded, there is not much incentive for the KNS brigade to back down.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Now history lesson from Chas Booth.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Copenhagen and Amsterdam - "Investment and political leadership"

    'Got the investment'...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    Chas Booth extremely impressive here.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Klaxon
    Member

    Not sure at this point I can put a 2 in any candidate's box next year.

    Chas was stellar and I wish he was able to represent every ward.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Nick Gardner (Lab) backs Option A - and the traders.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Arellcat
    Moderator

    'hope all groups will engage in good faith'

    Being told to 'b*gger off' must be some type of good faith I wasn't previously aware of.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Chas is a very good guy.

    Somebody just said 'representative of the taxi community'.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Dave
    Member

    Even the tories are getting in on the action. "It's only responsible to do nothing as opinions are split."

    East-west cycle route is dead.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Stickman
    Member

    .

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Rob
    Member

    Have there been any arguments in favour of Option B, or just ones against Option A/everything?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    Balfour is still barking back to the original consultation.

    See my earlier post.

    He's to blame for this.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Scheme A would cause problems. The current situation doesn't?

    Ambulances won't get through. The ambulance service's written objections must currently be stuck at Roseburn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "East-west cycle route is dead."

    Not true.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. dougal
    Member

    Tory councillor (Cook?) believes Options A and B have equal merits. As with everything else said, these shared/equal merits not actually made explicit.

    Balfour (Con) believes Option B is not second-class citizen.

    Barrie (SNP) believes only lycra louts can use cycle paths.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    "The current situation doesn't?"

    Only for cyclists and pedestrians, And who the hell cares about them?

    As long as drivers are happy, all's well with the world. Right folks?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. SRD
    Moderator

    Isn't Balfour also the one who circulated misleading info to the school. Very dodgy.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    So, the council gets to take the easy route out and everyone else loses out.

    Peter's Roseburn mob will I assume be ecstatic for now. But they're about to get 100s of new flats in the old Donaldsons, thousands of new houses being built to the west around Maybury, the "International Gateway", the "Garden District" and thousands of new parking spaces going in to the new St. James development. That's thousands of extra potential single occupant car journeys, weekday and weekend. And Roseburn is sat in the middle of it all. And sadly everyone has to just muddle on through and see the inevitable results of inaction develop.

    Of course people will still cycle. But many more will chose not to. And Roseburn will still be on the most polluted street in Scotland, it's local traders will still suffer, as the picture framer pointed out to me, from the effects of an interminable economic downturn combined with a street location that few people chose to visit.

    The pubs will be fine. Their proximity to both Tynecastle and Murrayfield will inevitably save them from the reaper's scythe of pub alcohol taxation and more people drinking at home.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Genuine question

    Is the 'bottleneck' at Corstorphine better/worse/similar to Roseburn at present?

    Is traffic (inc buses) held up more in C or R?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Is the 'bottleneck' at Corstorphine better/worse/similar to Roseburn at present?

    They're possibly different things. Roseburn is a bottleneck of both street width but also people trying to make a right turn towards Roseburn Street / Russell Road and coming the opposite direction cutting along Roseburn Place as a Rat Run.

    Corstorphine more of a straight-through bottleneck along the narrower sections of the high street.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Klaxon
    Member

    I thought making a decision was supposed to be the point of the meeting, Lesley? That was the very top line of the meeting report - we recommend the councillors select A or B.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. condor2378
    Member

    God, I hate Hinds. Odious woman.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. The Boy
    Member

    This city really is the pits.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. Mind-numbingly gutless.

    Edinburgh needs to stop resting on its world-heritage festival-destination laurels, wake up and smell the latte.

    Other cities around the world, from Dublin to Bogota, London to New York, Paris to Dubrovnik, are simply leaving us behind when it comes to thinking seriously about improving their cities and making them less dependent on cars and lorries.

    But in Edinburgh one person spouting spurious, dubious and in some cases outright untrue claims, can convince a vocal local minority to shout even louder, and the Council crumbles...

    Useless.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    LH slagging off Greens for wanting to make a decision today.

    Useful to hide the fact that maybe this scheme (A/B/other) wasn't ready for a decision!

    Derailed by political cave-in to dubious campaigning.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. amir
    Member

    Hot air = polluted air

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    Vocal protest about selling off buses.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. "Corstorphine more of a straight-through bottleneck along the narrower sections of the high street."

    The right turn up Clermiston Road creates a similar issue. Or at the very least seems to confuse the hell out of people as to which lane they should be in.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    The good news is that decision implies that all parties agree with 10% of transport budget being spent on cycling.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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