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Double yellows

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  1. gibbo
    Member

    While out riding yesterday, I noticed a lot of new double yellows in Corbiehill.

    Mainly on corners, which is a good thing as it'll improve line of sight and stop parked cars sticking out.

    It'll be interesting to see if this is a citywide initiative, or just in this area.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Also in Inch Park around the sports centre. People had been parking on a single track road on match days....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. dougal
    Member

    "Mainly on corners, which is a good thing as it'll improve line of sight and stop parked cars sticking out."

    Really? Cos all the ones down Leith Walk way seem to be routinely ignored. Double lines, cycle path, dropped kerb - it's possible to park outside Greggs and block all three.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. cc
    Member

    Yes, double yellow lines ought to be good news but without enforcement - or with police permission to park on them all day - they're just a slap in the face.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. gibbo
    Member

    "Really?"

    So far, so good. But, of course, what might happen is that drivers will simply try their luck, get away with it, and parking will go back to where it was before.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. mgj
    Member

    Or they can just get a blue badge which somehow gives the right to park where you like.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Rob
    Member

    They added some to the bus turning place on Seafield Street. They've been parked on every day since, though possibly slightly less than before.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. wingpig
    Member

    "They added some to the bus turning place on Seafield Street."

    Haaa. When did they appear? I could only fit four of the five cars parked on that circle in view in the picture I took but never posted on the way to the Porty rocket launch last weekend. I hope all the new crop of flats in Fleming Place are fully-occupied and that it's not going to get worse as more people move in.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Klaxon
    Member

    I really wonder how the hell the parking contractor operates. With the current level of noncompliance one would think they could take on a large number of temp staff on a 3 month contract, blitz the entire city and make a LOT of money in fines.

    It sounds a lot like they're on a fixed-numbers management contract, perhaps to allay fears of profiteering, but it's having the result of parking becoming a free for all everywhere.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    (My bold)

    HWC
    Rule 243
    DO NOT stop or park:

    - near a school entrance
    - anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
    - at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
    - on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
    - opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
    - near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
    - opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
    - where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
    - where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
    - in front of an entrance to a property
    - on a bend
    - where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.

    By my reckoning, all those double-yellows by junctions should be unnecessary and have only been put in due to flagrant breaching of the HC rules.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Rob
    Member

    "When did they appear?"

    A few weeks back. I don't think they painted them all the way around, just the first bit on the left (hard to tell at a glance as they're so frequently obscured). I'll look more closely tonight.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "only been put in due to flagrant breaching of the HC rules"

    Well yes, "HC rules" are not the same as laws.

    And it's a long time since the police regularly did 'helpful' things like taking action against vehicles causing potential road safety problems by obstructing pavements and dropped kerbs or obscuring sightlines.

    I've lost track of what is still a 'police matter' and what has been de-policed.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. ih
    Member

    ' Well yes, "HC rules" are not the same as laws.'

    Good point. I briefly confused DO NOT with MUST NOT, the latter having a legal backing.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. dougal
    Member

    Is there an annotated Highway Code somewhere that lists all the MUST NOTs with their legal backing and wording?

    EDIT: Ask a silly question... If I'd just searched for "annotated highway code" first, eh?

    http://www.highwaycode.info/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. jonty
    Member

    From a legislation point of view I think the Highway Code is already annotated is it not?

    The legislation wording can then be checked here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. gibbo
    Member

    @edd1e_h

    Could you imagine the whining if drivers were suddenly forced to obey those rules?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    @gibbo, I can indeed. It would sound a lot like the "Roseburn effect" or the "Willowbrae bus lane camera effect", and be repeated gleefully by the local rag until the council were so embarrassed by the furore they performed a humiliating u-turn.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Rob
    Member

    "I'll look more closely tonight."

    I forgot to come back to this. After looking more closely, no they weren't all the way. I'm not sure what they'd painted, maybe just the lines around the middle?

    Anyway, what prompted me to come back was seeing workers yesterday actually painting in the rest of the lines.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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