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Quality bike corridor

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  1. amir
    Member

    Here are opportunities to make your points about the QBC from town to the King's Buildings (from the Ed Uni BUGS):

    "A Quality Bike Corridor from George IV Bridge to the King's Buildings is being proposed for development by the Council.

    The corridor would include new cycle lanes and bus lanes, and changes to the parking and loading restrictions along the route so these lanes aren't blocked as often by parked vehicles.

    You can find further information on the proposals and plans at:

    * James Clark Maxwell Building, Level 3 Cafeteria, between 15 - 18 November (9am - 5pm) and 19 November (9am - 3pm)

    * King's Buildings House, The Grange Room, between 20 - 26 November (9am - 5pm)

    Council staff are holding a drop-in session, where they will be able to answer any questions you may have. These will be held at:

    * James Clark Maxwell Building, Level 3 Cafeteria on 16th November (12pm - 3pm)

    * King's Buildings House, The Grange Room, on 25th November (12pm - 3pm)

    Plans for the scheme will also be on display at Newington Library, 17-21 Fountainhall Road, Edinburgh, EH9 2LN from 15 - 29 November. Additional public drop-in sessions will be at St. Catherine's Argyle Church, 61 Grange Road, Edinburgh, EH9 1TY on 1 and 2 December (5pm - 8pm). For more information (including the scheme drawings) please visit: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/674/consultations/1179/quality_bike_corridor.

    If you wish to express your views or provide comments on the scheme, please email qualitybikecorridor@edinburgh.gov.uk,

    or write to:

    Quality Bike Corridor Consultation, Freepost NAT 18051, Edinburgh, EH1 1BR (no stamp required)."

    Posted 14 years ago #

  2. Min
    Member

    That is a lot of maps to look at-will leave till the weekend! It is certainly well needed and long overdue. I hope it will turn out to be quality.

    Incidentally, what is it with the council and "Princess Street"? (as written on the first map)

    Posted 14 years ago #

  3. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    "changes to the parking and loading restrictions along the route so these lanes aren't blocked as often by parked vehicles"

    They need a bit more ambition!

    As Min says, there's a lot there to take in, but looks like an opportunity not to be missed!

    Posted 14 years ago #

  4. cb
    Member

    "Incidentally, what is it with the council and "Princess Street"? "

    Sloppy editing? There were at least two errors on the 20mph-trial leaflet (see other thread).

    Posted 14 years ago #

  5. Min
    Member

    "Sloppy editing? There were at least two errors on the 20mph-trial leaflet (see other thread). "

    They seem to do it quite a lot though. There was that bus stop at the foot of the Mound that had Princess Street on it for ages. World class main street etc..

    "They need a bit more ambition!"

    Heh, yes I noticed that. Does smack of more lip service to cycling, please let me be wrong! Come on CEC, you have a great chance here to do something right.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  6. wingpig
    Member

    Sixteen years too late for me to use everyday but still very welcome. Right-turn filters on Mayfield Road would have been handy back then. The cycle parking and entrance/exit facilities outside the Ashworth building were cyclefriendlified a year or so after I stopped needing to use them every day.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  7. amir
    Member

    I too will welcome the right filter on Mayfield Road (map 14). It will still be difficult to turn right onto Mayfield Road from KB - just too many cars (mostly with one passenger).

    It's difficult to judge how wide the new cycle lanes are. This is critical to the value of the scheme. I suspect they run out (need to see more maps) and shrink at critical moments. I would quite like to see the bike lane running up to the junction at Liberton Road. This would enable cyclists to pass cars right up to the lights at that junction. This is currently difficult/dangerous due to the doubling up of cars within the lane.

    Posted 14 years ago #

  8. Kirst
    Member

    Here's the link to the papers about it http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/meetings/meeting/2591/transport_infrastructure_and_environment_committee

    Posted 13 years ago #

  9. SRD
    Moderator

    all sorts of interesting stuff on there! thanks for the link.

    quite absurd the amount of effort that appears to have gone into demonstrating that communal on-street rubbish containers are better than plastic bags.

    "Overall the majority (57%) of respondents were satisfied with their method of waste collection although satisfaction was lowest amongst those who were on the evening black bag collections (42%) and highest in the communal container pilots (91%). Satisfaction was also high (87%).amongst those who used gull
    proof bags 3.21 The survey also asked if they thought that street cleanliness had improved as a
    result of the pilot. Of the 32 respondents in the communal container pilots 94% thought that street cleanliness had improved, while 91% of the respondents in the gull proof bag pilots and 51% in the black bag evening collections reported an improvement in street cleanliness."

    Posted 13 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    "
    3.5

    Of the 452 responses received:
    • 341(75.4%) either supported or strongly supported the scheme.
    • 41 (9.1%) neither supported or opposed the scheme.
    • 70 (15.5%) either opposed or strongly opposed the scheme.

    "

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/34252/item_29-george_iv_bridge_to_kings_buildings_quality_bike_corridor-objections_to_traffic_regulation_order_tro1135

    Posted 13 years ago #

  11. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 13 years ago #

  12. SRD
    Moderator

    Anyone know what it going to happen at potterrow outside maqbools? I love the shop, but is delivery vans are a menace!

    Posted 13 years ago #

  13. Roibeard
    Member

    They appear to have slipped in a no right turn from Mayfield Road into West Mains Road (i.e. southbound).

    I didn't see that in the original consultation, and I'm hoping that it's "except for cycles" or similar. There were comments about this junction arising from the consultation, and the council response was that it was being examined, but it would be a shame to see cyclists herded downhill before being allowed to turn into KB.

    I'll see if I can find out a bit more.

    Robert

    Posted 13 years ago #

  14. Roibeard
    Member

    Just had a prompt call-back from the Council. The plan is for a Toucan crossing with southbound cyclists crossing diagonally during the pedestrian phase, having been "stacked" on a specially widened pavement. (Cue old joke; how do you stack cyclists? With a pitchfork...)

    So, the no right turn will be for vehicles, who will be signed along West Saville Terrace and Blackford Avenue instead. Apparently very few vehicles made that turn anyway (20 per hour or so), mostly Uni vehicles, the KB shuttle bus, etc which can be re-routed.

    This is not happening in the first phase of implementation, but will be part of a later tender process.

    Robert

    Posted 13 years ago #

  15. Roibeard
    Member

    @SRD No parking extended to M-F 0730-1830, Sat 0800-1830 (i.e. weekdays start half hour earlier). No loading M-F 0730-0930 & 1600-1830; restrictions start 30 minutes earlier and end ~30 mins later both am and pm.

    At least according to the original consultation...

    Robert

    Posted 13 years ago #

  16. SRD
    Moderator

    Cheers. thanks. Will be interesting to see if that is enforced any better, as I am often there 5pmish, and it is regularly getting deliveries....

    Posted 13 years ago #

  17. Dave
    Member

    Just had a prompt call-back from the Council. The plan is for a Toucan crossing with southbound cyclists crossing diagonally during the pedestrian phase, having been "stacked" on a specially widened pavement.

    Won't work IMO. People who are already riding along the road with a green light aren't going to mount the pavement (whether they have to dismount or not), wait a couple of minutes for the light sequence to rotate, and then cross on the ped phase. They'll just turn right anyway, but the junction layout won't make that as safe as before.

    Surely there's room for a bike right filter, given that there's currently an entire filter lane?

    Posted 13 years ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    "Won't work IMO"

    Here's the thinking -

    "
    The design is aimed at facilitating less confident cyclists to cross this intimidating junction.

    We are not proposing to ban the right turn for cyclists so more confident cyclists would still be able to do this manoeuvre.

    A right turn filter was investigated but even with a minimum green time this was expected to have a significantly detrimental effect on overall traffic delays at the junction and it wouldn't necessarily have catered very well for less confident cyclists.

    "

    So 'options'.

    Until there is a major change in 'facilitating car use' attitudes - UK & CEC - any cycle design will be more of compromise than 'we' would like.

    At the least the people responsible for this scheme are trying to encourage cycling.

    Posted 13 years ago #

  19. i
    Member

    Does anyone still have the pdfs of the detailed drawing of QBC? The consultation link doesn't work anymore.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  20. chdot
    Admin

    FROM THE ARCHIVE

    TWELVE YEARS AGO

    “Does smack of more lip service to cycling, please let me be wrong! Come on CEC, you have a great chance here to do something right.”

    (Upthread - http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1682#post-16526 )

    Posted 1 year ago #

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