CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
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CCE is 14years old!
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ih, You're right but I'd still rather be knocked off by a careless passenger into the path of a pedestrian than knocked in front of a bus.
The pedestrians are also big losers here as cyclists are liable to swerve unexpectedly onto the pavement if a door opens in front of them.
I've just realised that I've assumed there's not a kerb between cycle lane and pavement.
The thing is @ac, and this really scares me, if you smash into the edge of an opening door you could be very seriously injured. It's not just being pushed over into the pavement. If that's the layout, there MUST be a separation the width of an open door between the parking bays and the (roadside) edge of the cycle track.
Bigger than they look.
These facilities will generally be 1.5m wide and will be physically segregated from traffic by a 0.5m wide segregation zone.
Anyway I've accidentally drifted this topic into the realm of stuff that should be in the project thread not enforcement of the old stuff: http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11196
The only advantage of the painted red sections is that because cars access them, they are free from glass and other rubbish, as well as wandering pedestrians.
I recently made an FOI request about parking tickets issued in my local area of Abbeyhill, and got a full reply.
Some points really struck me looking at the figures for the past three years, and the rationale behind enforcement:
- The majority of tickets issued were on streets where parking is controlled or where parking/loading restrictions apply.
- Streets where there is mostly unrestricted parking attract fewer tickets, egsrdless of anti-social or double parking epidemics (the latter anecdotally observed by me).
- Some streets with specific restrictions (e.g.. Abbey Street, outside primary school) have very few tickets issued while others (e.g.. Rossie Place, double yellows on junctions) have a lot more.
- The council policy on enforcement prioritises certain times of day, vis:
"Parking Attendants can patrol streets at any time during the day or night; however the vast majority of patrols are undertaken during times when the parking restrictions are in force (e.g. 0830 to 1830 within the central controlled parking zones; 0830 to 1730 within the peripheral and extended controlled parking zones)."
- There are "minimum visit requirements" by parking attendants for each street, and these vary considerably. However the trend seems to be that streets in the CPZ are visited very frequently (i.e.. several times per day); main through routes are visited slightly less frequently; side streets outside the CPZ or quieter through routes can vary from one daily visit (one at the weekend), to one per week (one weekend visit per month). Poor old Bothwell Street apparently has "no visit requirements"!
What was surprising to me was to note that Rossie Place, despite being one of the least visited streets, had the third highest number of tickets issued of the streets I enquired about (highest were Montrose Terrace and Easter Road). Which I suppose demonstrates how bad the parking on that street really is. Imagine if visits were more frequent than once a week (once a month at weekends): the number of tickets issued would be much higher.
I don't know for sure, but looking at the pattern in my area, I would imagine Leith Walk is visited very regularly by parking attendants. Again though, they can only enforce what they have the powers to enforce...
So, there have been letters sent to folks here which say one thing about enforcement, the police saying another, and yet more letters send from the council to non-CCE members I know which say something different again!
I'm still waiting for the relevant people to respond to my councillor's request for info, but I'm not hopeful that their answer will be any clearer than the thickest of mud either.
It would appear that no-one actually knows what the legality of the double-parking in cycle lanes on Leith Walk actually is, nor who should enforce it if it is illegal.
Here's my understanding of how this should all work on Leith Walk.
Parking in an advisory cycle lane: No offence, they have no legal status and are simply paint on a road.
Parking in advisory cycle lane with parking restrictions (yellow/red lines): Subject to enforcement by local authority parking attendants, when the parking restrictions are in force.
Double parking (whether in an advisory cycle lane or not): Subject to enforcement by the police, under powers to deal with obstruction.
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