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Today's rubbish dog walking

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  • Started 7 years ago by dessert rat
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  1. dessert rat
    Member

    45 mins ago on Cramond promenade. Lady sitting on bench juggling/immersed in phone, coffee, sandwich & small child, also had dog on extendable lead which was over the little wall on the other side of the path, so invisible to me.

    Apparently my fault dog almost got garroted – lead was indiscernible until about 2m away.

    “typical bloody cyclist”.

    Nice.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Earlier this week I was on the Carrick Knowe Golf Course/Tramway Path.

    I could see a lady 50m or so ahead, stopped, yakking on her phone. I could also see a dog near her, but on the verge across the path from her.

    I was very close before I realised there was an extendable leash thingy linking them. At the same time, she turned to see me coming along the path, and yanked her dog back towards her. The poor mutt flew across the path in a Chuck Jones stylee back to her feet.

    I wobbled laughing.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    Dog, off-lead, lunged at me onm NMW this morning. Aggressive barker. Chased me. didn't actually try to bite me.

    Owner refused to call dog or acknowledge me.

    I was shaking (still am).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @SRD

    I was sorely tempted to take my bear spray back from Canada last time I was there instead of leaving it in my uncle's garage. Poorly managed hounds are a real menace. Take some time to get yourself calm.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    Owner refused to call dog or acknowledge me.

    Suggests this is normal for her. Bleh.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. urchaidh
    Member

    Passed a couple of people with three (ish) dogs on Leith Links this morning. They were across the whole path as I approached so I rang by bell, they made a gap, I slowed and said 'thanks' as I passed.

    A few seconds later a ball flashed past me, bouncing along the ground, followed by a dog and way to close for comfort. The dog was fixated on the ball, if the ball had been any closer or had taken a bounce across my path I'd have been off. I very nearly stopped to complain.

    I can't imagine anyone intentionally putting their dog at risk like this, but I can't escape the nagging suspicion it was intentional.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Not as bad as @urchaidh's, but there was a person in Harrison Park throwing a ball for their dog to chase from one side of the diagonal path to the other as my 4-year-old was descending the hill on her bike with me in attendance on mine. I'd have had no problem if he'd waited for us to pass, but instead he clocked us, seemed to wait then threw the ball anyway as we neared, thereby having no control over when his large mutt charged back across the path on the return leg. Idiot. Also needed a ballistics lesson that he would get more range per throw throwing downhill!

    Have they done away with dog licenses in favour of mandatory lobotomies for dog owners these days?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    For most of us dog-loving, Edinburgh urbanites, popular dog-walking areas from Portobello beach to Blackford Hill are also heavily populated by other walkers and their dogs. And in those circumstances, letting your dog off lead isn’t usually the best idea.

    The number of attacks by off-lead dogs can’t be officially calculated. Not all attacks, even those resulting in serious mauling or injury, are reported to police or dog wardens. What’s the point if the owner grabbed his/her dog and ran off without giving personal details?

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/helen-martin-the-hidden-menace-of-attacks-by-dogs-off-leads-1-4598060

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. "It's time all dogs were made to take a test, pay tax and insurance and forced to wear a licence plate to make them easily identifiable before they're allowed onto the streets & paths that have been provided for them at taxpayers' expense." ;-)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

    Technically dogs do already need to have a license plate, of sorts. Two, actually - tag and microchip.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Forgotten about that.

    From today (6 April 2016) it will be compulsory for owners to ensure their dog is microchipped.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/compulsory-dog-microchipping-comes-into-effect

    Do all (most) dogs have them in reality?

    Don’t suppose there is a reader that works from about 10 feet away...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Snowy
    Member

    It barely rates a mention but this morning also had the unsupervised collie weaving in and out of all the commuter bikes while carrying a 3-foot-long stick in its jaws. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. Trixie
    Member

    Do all (most) dogs have them in reality?

    It's that thing that there are doggy people and then there are people with dogs. Doggy people's dogs will be chipped, the others...*makes doubtful noise*

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. rust
    Member

    Watched a cyclist knocked off their bike on the prom this morning (heavy breaking and topple rather than fill on collision, but still). A lab was allowed to run down Bath Street and across the prom to the beach.

    Worse still then had to listen to other dog walkers try and blame the cyclist with the usual they go too fast rubbish. Quite angry now.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Frenchy
    Member

    Highway Code is very clear:

    Rule 56

    Dogs. Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. Kenny
    Member

    Thank goodness for disc brakes.

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    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. acsimpson
    Member

    Yikes. I had a woman look right at me before releasing her dog directly under my wheel, smidsy style. Thankfully no harm done as I was going walking pace; although I hit the dog's tail

    I'm glad she wasn't driving.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Two ladies walking dogs on leads crossing the Salisbury Road-Newington Road junction. As they crossed they stopped to let the dogs have a sniff of each other and a bit of dog chat.

    All this with an ambulance approaching at 60mph with blues and twos going full pelt.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    Several people walking their dogs along the Restalrig Path at the weekend appeared to be learning the smelly way that their dog is not under control if it has run off ahead of or behind them and started anointing themselves in the fox carcass on the verge behind the allotments. My favourite was the "eurch, phone ma dad, ah dinnae ken whit tae dae, ah've ainly 1% left, phone ma dad and tell um the dug's rolled in a deid forx" etc.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    As shared on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Lollercake/status/1185175258862686208

    Scene: Person on Portobello Prom, standing outside The Beach House, looking at the menu. Me, cycling North-West up the prom.

    I cycled towards the ample gap, and then noticed a dog appearing from behind the canvas barrier thing by the tables on the right (sea-side) of the prom. I watched, expecting the dog to probably cross my path to the people on the left, and then I noticed the almost invisible extending dog lead running the whole width of the prom, between who turned out to the owner on the left (With the end of the lead in front of them, not visible), and the dog that had just appeared.

    Emergency stop, I stopped with my front wheel touching the lead. I said "You need to keep him on a shorter lead", the owner said nothing.
    Dog was unfazed, and wandered back over to the owner, I cycled on.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. acsimpson
    Member

    Out for a walk with the pre-schooler this morning we waited out the way to let a couple and their small dogs past. Both dogs ran towards us but one stopped a good distance away. The other kept coming so the pre-schooler hid behind me. The dog continued to advance towards us so rather than allowing it to sniff me I gently encouraged it away with the brolly I was holding. The dog owner took umbrage to this saying that there way no need to chase the dog away despite the fact that it had obviously terrified the pre-schooler, even going as far as to suggest that we shouldn't be walking there if she is scared of dogs. I gently requested that they perhaps revise the countryside access guidelines when they got home.

    </grumble>

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    Brolly good @acsimpson - Richard in his bicycling book wielded a long pump and the Bedford sharp shooter who won all French endurance race around WWI shot them with a revolver. He went on to run Raleigh.

    @Edinburgh Cycl - Your dog has you on too long a lead is the correct nomenclature

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. amir
    Member

    Just an observation:

    on the Roslin-Shawfair path dogs are rarely on leads (<10% ish), whilst on the Eskbank-Rosewell path dogs are mainly on leads (>70% ish).
    Not sure why the culture divide?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    Opposite sides of the river?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. minus six
    Member

    speaking of rivers and cultural divides

    cycling down the banks of the river foyle south of derry down into strabane

    worth a punt for the adventurous tourer

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. ARobComp
    Member

    I really like dogs. I want a dog. But work and a difficult second baby (now a delightful young man) has meant that it's not been the right time to get one. However we're excited at some point to get a dog.

    The rubbish dog walkers of Colinton however seem to have taken it upon themselves to ensure that my children are terrified of dogs. Had a bad incident last year with a dog with a very long lead that ran out the dark in the nearby park and got itself wrapped around toddler (then 2) and baby in the pram and myself while going crazy.

    Since then my daughter has been terrified of dogs and we've been gradually getting her back into the idea of them and making her more comfortable.

    Roll on yesterday when an adolescent german shepherd charged my daughter (3) in Spylaw park and tumbled her over and proceeded to bounce on her and "play fight" with her. My wife got the dog off which then proceeded to knock over the 1 YO and do the same to him. The owners had no idea what to do and thank goodness the dog wasn't violent but more just playful and untrained. Another mum vaulted the fence out the playpark and ran over to help and tore into the dog owners about having it off the lead if they can't call it. Now reported to the dog wardens but I'm furious about it and quite saddened really.

    So many people say "the dog is fine with kids" as it bounds up to sniff the kids, not realising that that is wholly unknown to the child. I've disciplined dogs that got too close in the past by forcing them down into a sit or bonking their noses which often rises the ire of the owner. Really frustrated about it all.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    A lot of "lockdown dogs" have been acquired over the past year it seems. A proportion of them will be poorly trained and/or with clueless owners. I was brought up around dogs and like them, but I do recall a few close shaves when younger, even with my own pets. Bitten a few times, none serious. I don't have one now, not the right pet for the inner city.

    My son is terrified of dogs, after numerous large scary hounds variously barked at him, charged him, or lunged etc. when he was little. He's now 16 and is paralysed by fear when "over friendly" or aggressive dogs come near. Scarred for life (psychologically).

    Please don't get a dog, they don't mix well with kids.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. Frenchy
    Member

    Very sorry to hear of both your experiences. It really is heartbreaking that a small number of dog owners can do so much harm to kids through what seems to be almost entirely ignorance and laziness.

    If anyone ever thinks it'd be useful for their children to meet a big, but timid and always-on-lead dog, do let me know.

    Please don't get a dog, they don't mix well with kids.

    This is really only slightly more appropriate as a conclusion than "Don't get a bike" would be at the end of a post in the rubbish cycling thread.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    I was scarred for life when a big Alsatian jumped on my back when I was maybe ten. Very scared of dogs but over time as an adult walked a few dogs and overcame my fears.

    Still some owners and dogs I don’t fancy and pedal past and away.

    CAMHS used to have an incredibly timid mutt for desensitization. Sadly it died aged 17

    In my work in an SEBN school the head teacher has had two dogs. The first one Bramble was so good we made her a therapet. The kids used to sleep in her basket.When she died her replacement was not as smart but the kids still loved her.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    I can’t agree. My dog is a miniature labradoodle who loves everyone especially children. He’s almost 7 now so fairly calm and will approach people very slowly and calmly hoping to get clapped. Every dog however does have its faults and his is putting his muddy paws gently on people which we watch for and usually stop him first. Strangely though he never does this to children only adults.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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