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  1. neddie
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    I see they're continuing to make the same mistakes, namely a half-hearted LTN around Harrison park.

    They've left the West Bryson Rd / Dundee Tce East-West rat-run open, as they have the Harrison Rd one.

    Utterly ridiculous putting segregated lanes down on Harrison Rd, when a filter would do.

    All it means is they'll get loads of complaints about "increased traffic" on the rat-runs they've left open, and the usual calls to "rip it all out", a la East Craigs, Corstorphine, etc.

    Honestly, the council have no clue how to negotiate. Start with the absolute best practice, then work back. Don't start with a weak filtering scheme, and expect it to somehow survive...

    FFS, maddening. We'll never reduce driving and associated harm to our children's future at this incremental rate.

    Never mind, I guess Spokes will be along soon to say "it's better than nothing"

    Posted 2 months ago #

  2. Dave
    Member

    I started off at the end by our office (the eastern end) and worked back, surprised at how progressive it is. Then you get to all the mystifying stuff around the canal connection and Harrison Park.

    Guys, just leave Harrison Road closed at the bridges and then spend £20k on a nice modal filter on West Bryson Rd and you'll create a massive high value LTN

    Urgh.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  3. Dave
    Member

    I was thinking about the Fountainbridge plans again on the commute:

    - I ride along the canal from west of Harrison Park to Lochrin basin every day.
    - The scheme starts off the towpath west of Harrison Park and stops outside our office.
    - I can't imagine using it in preference to the towpath

    I see the argument that it's better for personal safety, in terms of being on-street and streetlit, but in exchange you need to deal with the tedious traffic from Harrison Park on, until you get to Fountainbridge with the many pedestrian crossings. Over the years I've had many near misses trying to get past Harrison Park on the road.

    It will be interesting, if it's built, to see what the effect is on cycle counts at Fountainbridge vs the canal.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  4. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Scott Arthur now using these plans (flawed as they may be) to stoke cyclist hate on FB. Edinburgh's worst ever (ex-)transport convener and MP?

    Posted 2 months ago #

  5. wingpig
    Member

    That one, with the leading comment about the cycle bypass? https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BNNdzy8zd/

    Posted 2 months ago #

  6. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Indeed.

    Posted 2 months ago #

  7. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Lest we forget...

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20966&page=23#post-368351

    Posted 2 months ago #

  8. chdot
    Admin

    Seems to have too much time on his hands.

    Shame Keir didn’t make him a Minister..:

    Posted 2 months ago #

  9. bakky
    Member

    On the subject of Fountainbridge / Dundee St consultation, something I failed to spot initially but spoilering here from tomorrow's digest:

    For the first time (that we’ve seen), there are a couple of brilliant ‘overview’ images that paint illustrations of the new infrastructure and interventions directly onto maps of the area. These are large image files that require zooming in to see the implementation, but are a little easier to parse than the technical drawings alone. The first image [13.3mb] lays out the Dundee St / Fountainbridge Route, while the second image [17.8mb] contains a number of the southern ‘canal alternative’ interventions being planned within the project that also ease school routes and the crossing of Ashley Terrace. These are well worth a look over, particularly if you find the usual technical PDFs difficult to visualise.

    While already massive files, these could still stand to be slightly higher res; but zoom in and pan around, and I think they're actually a really important way of depicting changes in ways friendly to the public and easier to reason about, would be great to have them for all projects going forward...

    Posted 2 months ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    “

    The UK’s airspace is being upgraded as part of the UK Government’s Airspace Modernisation Strategy. Eighteen UK airports, including Edinburgh Airport, are modernising their routes to make our airspace more efficient.

    Find out more As part of this process, a consultation on our proposals will run from Monday 20 October 2025 until Sunday 25 January 2026. Information on our proposals is available on these pages and in our virtual room.

    “

    https://corporate.edinburghairport.com/airspacechange

    Posted 1 month ago #

  11. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm not sure I've seen this one shared before it's a plan to fill in a rather critical missing link across the Barnton Junction.

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/barnton-connections

    closing date 26th Jan.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  12. boothym
    Member

    I'm not sure I've seen this one shared before it's a plan to fill in a rather critical missing link across the Barnton Junction.

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/barnton-connections


    An important one given events on Whitehouse Road. Though my questions would be - why switch sides at the golf club crossing rather than just staying on the west side, why is the cycle track 2-2.5m when in places the opposite footway has a bit to spare at 3m, and why does it only go to NCN1 instead of all the way up towards Cramond Primary?

    Posted 1 month ago #

  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I think running the track ultimately on the east side of Whitehouse Rd makes sense, as there's only one driveway and no roads to cross, as opposed to many/several on the west side.

    I am pretty appalled that the location of the proposed switchover means northbound (and southbound for that matter) cyclists will have to cross the golf course exit, which is exactly the location and direction that resulted in NWH driver Ross Wallace killing 11-year-old Thomas Wong. I'm far from convinced that junction is resolved or mitigable.

    And yes, onward travel to Cramond very much needs sorted ASAP.

    Posted 1 month ago #

  14. neddie
    Member

    Bidirectional cycle lanes, on one side, are bad design in all but very limited situations, for example there is a beach or river on one side, meaning no sideroad or driveway crossings.

    The issues with them are chiefly that bikes will be travelling in the opposite direction to the adjacent carriageway, which drivers will not expect / look out for. Then access and egress to them become a problem. People on bikes don't just want to get linearly from A to B, they want to stop places, or start/end their journey part way along. On top of that, side-road and driveway crossings become a problem. As do signalised junctions which end up with no priority for bikes and long wait times.

    I wish the council would stop designing them like that - it's just lazy sh***!

    FFS, just do uni-directional protected lanes on each side.

    The proposed Dundee St bike lanes are actually quite good in that respect, unidirectional on both sides, except a short section where it makes sense to have 2-way on the same side (with a unidirectional on the other side, so no unnecessary crossing)

    Posted 1 month ago #

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