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  • Started 7 years ago by I were right about that saddle
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  1. I were right about that saddle
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  2. jonty
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    I think I can remember this happening when I was in school, and at the time it made sense to me cos (at the time, at least) Watson's kids were only allowed out for lunch in 6th year whereas for Boroughmuir it was everyone. In retrospect, pretty bad though.

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  3. gembo
    Member

    I would have imagined the Watsons pupils all go to Waitrose?

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  4. Ed1
    Member

    does seems like a crazy policy

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  5. Min
    Member

    So if he chooses to use his son as a social experiment that is his personal choice
    Why is sending your child to a state school a "social experiment"?

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  6. SRD
    Moderator

    ??????

    ??????

    ??????

    amongst other things I want to say, there are lots of professors who make a lot less than that 'average' pay.

    and he doubtless pays lots of tax on that salary, whatever it is. so why on earth shouldn't his son go to Boroughmuir?

    and what the bleep does that have to do with anything?

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  7. Ed1
    Member

    Just making silly comments , but imagine it would be more of a gripe for someone who does not have choice

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  8. Morningsider
    Member

    Why queue at a shop which clearly doesn't value your custom, when there are lots of other choices nearby?

    I do feel sorry for this kid though - your dad complaining to The Guardian is likely to lead to a roasting from your mates.

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  9. I were right about that saddle
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    I would have imagined the Watsons pupils all go to Waitrose?

    I like the idea of Academy kids going to the Witchery and Fettes boys being helicoptered to Prestonfield for lunch.

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  10. chdot
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    EN reads Guardian too shock.

    "

    But despite the Tesco representative responding to Mr Pollock’s tweets and agreeing that the store ‘can not have different rules’, a Tesco spokesperson told the Guardian: “This is completely untrue – there has never been any discrimination between state and private school children at this store.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/bruntsfield/edinburgh-tesco-accused-of-state-school-pupil-discrimination-1-4296116

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  11. crowriver
    Member

    What I don't understand is why any of these kids are in Tesco Metro at lunch time in the first place! Surely not all queuing for a healthy fruit snack? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Sweets, chocolate, and fizzy drinks? Or a crappy 'Meal Deal'?

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  12. SRD
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    it's a horrible shop, which I have avoided using since they introduced the 'pick'n'mix' sweets at the front door when i had a toddler AND a tesco delivery driver ran over Recombodna of this parish.

    I also DESPISE their self-serve tills.

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  13. I were right about that saddle
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    This thread is even more Edinburgh than the original article.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. Boff
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    Perhaps other can confirm this but as I understand it Watsons pupils are not permitted to leave school grounds for lunch until they reach 6th year while Boroughmuir pupils can leave school grounds for lunch in any year. I therefore presume that this discrimination is based on age and likely behaviour related to age (or lack thereof) rather than public/private school or class discrimination. The uniform is just used as simple age verification. Obviously the Graun has it's social justice angle to cover and the EEN has pages to fill with whatever they can copy and paste so the social class discrimination story fits better and produces more outrage (clicks / page views) in the comments section.

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  15. chdot
    Admin

    "I therefore presume that this discrimination is based on age and likely behaviour related to age"

    That is probably true, but only part of the point.

    Tesco seemed to admit (on Twitter) that GW pupils were allowed in unhindered and then said it was all 'untrue'.

    An 'obvious' compromise would be to let all sixthformers in unhindered - not likely to happen!

    Some Bruntsfield shops have had 'no more than 3 children at one time' notices in the past (and currently?)

    What are the 'must buy in Tesco' items?

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  16. crowriver
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    "What are the 'must buy in Tesco' items?"

    I'm guessing:

    10 Benson & Hedges (other cancer stick brands are available)
    4 cans of Carlsberg for £4 (other cheap gnat's pee booze brands available)
    BOGOF offer on Red Bull (other caffeine loaded sugary fizzy drink brands available)
    Cheap Rizlas (other head shop paraphernalia available)
    Multipacks of crisps to share with mates
    Extra strong mints to mask the fags'n'booze breath.
    Pre-packed sarnies reduced to clear.

    Er.....that's it. (Ed.)

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  17. chdot
    Admin

    Is that the Boroughmuir or GW shopping list?

    Not that I think Tesco would sell the top two to anyone in school uniform.

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  18. crowriver
    Member

    "Is that the Boroughmuir or GW shopping list?"

    Watson's obviously! :-)

    "Not that I think Tesco would sell the top two to anyone in school uniform."

    If they have ID to prove their age, it's completely legal. 16 for fags, 18 for fags and booze. Sixth formers stocking up on party supplies? Less chance of running into mum or dad if they avoid Waitrose...

    (Shows how long it's been since I was 16, I thought it was still legal to sell ciggies to folk that age).

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  19. chdot
    Admin

    Legal yes, but I presume they enforce the 'over 21' policy.

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  20. Frenchy
    Member

    16 for fags

    Nope - 18 for fags too, has been since 2007.

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  21. crowriver
    Member

    There is a 'Challenge 25' policy requiring young people to show ID. I suppose Tesco could refuse to serve an 18 year old in school uniform, but would they?

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  22. wingpig
    Member

    When I was at secondary school the very small were only allowed to the shop a few doors down, held at the gate by a prefect and released a pair at a time. We were freely allowed into town at lunchtime from fifth year and with a note in earlier years. The other secondary school was at the other end of town so there was little lunchtime shop interaction - there were obviously stories, but I witnessed no live animosity between the stupid maroon-blazers of the grammar school and the normal black jumpers of the secondary modern. The garage across the road from the grammar school had a sign stating a maximal concurrency of two or three pupils and was just round the corner from the fee-paying school (which only went up to fifth year) but I don't recall ever seeing any of them off their premises, so they maybe weren't allowed out.

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  23. Ed1
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    I have thought of more interesting comments to contribute to the this..-)

    A Business is allowed to discriminate in favour of some customers over others as long as not on protected charactistic under equalities act. Edinburgh leisure for example discriminate in favour of councils workers and Scottish gov and students but expected unemployed to pay full price, when I was unemployed I complained about this, I was told to go south so changed to heriot watt gym.

    If tesco had discriminated in favour of George Watson pupils over fetes pupils then they may be less outrage, if tesco had discriminate again Boroughmuir over broughton high school may be less also.

    From what I gathered possibly incorrectly is that part of the grievance is about perceived posh privilege types being given special treatment. I don’t have any children but imagining from the pupils perspective if was me would be more concerned about my dad compiling the paper. A dad who may be perceived as posh privileged type, high social economic group, not a repressed mass that child may be more effected by types of discrimination,someone who would have good life chances even if tesco were stupid etc etc.

    Although for the greater good of the public these types of complaints may be useful may be ego motived thing although not mutually exclusive.

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