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Cargo bikes as a growth area for bicycle vs. auto trips

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  • Started 8 years ago by Kim
  • Latest reply from gembo
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  1. neddie
    Member

    Critical Mass, 2pm Middle Meadow Walk, will finish at the Banzai event

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    Good to see @neddie and two other Circe tandem owners at the Banzai event. Weather was kind and had a look in at 3.30 just as CM were arriving.

    @hartscyclery appeared too and had a shot of his CaGo cargobike.
    Cycling Gardener had a bit of interest.

    When searching for Cargo bike online I found that Auto Trader has bike section. Probably old news now.

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202407061504869

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. LaidBack
    Member

    Meant to add...

    Cargobike Library for Bruntsfield is good iniative to let people see what's possibe. Early days - just two models at moment to get going - a Tern Quick Haul and R&M Packster. They're hoping to get more storage space in future.

    Bookings from 4th November via banzaiedinburgh.org.uk

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. bakky
    Member

    Smashing wee video / study from Larry vs. Harry and Brussels logistics co Urbike:

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    Posted 9 months ago #
  5. LaidBack
    Member

    @Bakky Yes great video summarising the proven advantages of Cargobikes vs Vans.

      • 98% reduction in CO2 versus diesel van Twice the delivery rate of a small? van (Running a Bullet with a Carla trailer or similar)
      • 10 times cheaper on vehicle cost
      • 98% reduction in CO2 versus diesel van
      • 96% reduction in CO2 versus E-van (due to manufacturing??)
      • Av e-cargo speed in Brussels = 16kph
      • Av van speed around 11.5kph

    These tie in with stats of our own pioneering e-cargo outfit FarrOut. Sadly no more after working throughout lockdown and being a regular spot on city. May start a thread on this. They currently have some bikes looking for a home. Pm if you can help.
    Zedify continue of course with mainly trikes and a couple of UA flatbeds.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

  7. LaidBack
    Member

    Just seen this on Bluesky posted by Prof Ian Walker

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0965856425002423

    We demonstrate that BEV ownership leads to an overall increase in car trip demand in the order of 10–20%. This reflects shifts from ICEV to BEV use, but also sizeable shifts away from public transport use, cycling and walking. These effects are increased by additional policies that incentivize BEV usage such as toll road exemptions. Together this suggests that while BEV usage reduces emission-based externalities, it may exacerbate others such as congestion externalities. Our results suggest a need for caution when using transportation incentives that make BEVs cheaper, but additionally make private motor vehicle use in general less expensive.

    Not a surprise? Was going to post in EV thread but relevant for the almost dead market for 'commercial' cargo bikes.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    Jevon's paradox, innit?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

    In a similar vein, as we (or if we ever) reduce oil consumption, oil will become cheaper, leading to increased use...

    Only solution - stop pumping it out of the ground

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. neddie
    Member

    The £3500 subsidy on electric cars should also apply to all EVs:- e-bikes and cargo bikes

    An effectively half-price cargo bike would incentivise businesses to have at least one in the fleet

    Posted 1 week ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Colin Jevon? Genius. My lovely wife has some lovely relatives and some of them have quite Fruity Names. They are very lovely though and one of them had a baby. I was like oooooooooh I cannot wait to hear what they name that boy, Mrs Garto is like - I dont know what you are talking about. Hmmmm. THey called him Barnaby, THis prompted much singing of the Colin Jevons number Barnaby the Bear’s my name. Never call me Jack or James. Ok it is Jeavons but you know me anything for a gag

    Posted 1 week ago #

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