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  • Started 7 years ago by fiefster
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  1. fimm
    Member

    Actually, the speed limit is 40 on the dual carriageway at that point.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Actually only towards Barnton.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    It's 70 under the bridge in both directions. 40 limit kicks in just as the road drops heading to town and starts just after the Cramond Brig heading towards Queensferry. Of course, the 40 was brought in to limit the damage to the new Cramond Brig before the reinforcement works there were carried out and has remained ever since.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm splitting hairs but heading into town it's 40 under the bridge. The signs are a few metres before the bridge:

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Haha! I had considered checking! In any case, still 70 up the hill.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. DaveC
    Member

    Heading into town, the first 'traffic' type camera, is not until the onslip just before the Pub turn off, for traffic still use this section of sign-to-enforcement* as a slowing down section.

    * I understand the camera is only a trafficlight camera not a speed camera, as the local law enforcement occasionally park a speed detector van on the layby, where all and sundry park their advertising vans.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    Diversion will be via underpass and sliproad

    Good work all :-)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    Excellent!

    EDIT: Cllr Work has emailed me another diagram, which suggests (if I'm reading it right):
    There will be a 30mph speed limit.

    The "safety zone" will be 1.2m, which doesn't sound very wide, but will probably suffice.

    Safety zone will be coned off, and cones will be "roped, not taped".

    The bus stop will be closed.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. ih
    Member

    Fantastic work @Harts and everyone else.

    It looks from the tweeted diagram that the 2-way track will take most of the length of the slip, and vehicles can only pull into the slip just before the exit ramp. This is excellent because when I went to take a look at the route, cars were using the full length of the slip road at high speed. It wasn't comfortable.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    Great work Harts Cyclery, Frenchy and others who contacted the council / councillors to get this sorted out.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "The bus stop will be closed"

    That makes sense in a safety sense. Hope it doesn't inconvenience more people than it helps!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. stiltskin
    Member

    If you go to Google streetmap & have a look at the underside of the bridge it certainly doesn't look too healthy!
    Don't know what is happening with the gates. One gate unlocked yesterday. Both unlocked today & I think I saw a Royal Mail van drive across.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. acsimpson
    Member

    Coming past tonight it appears traffic might be about to be diverted over the top of the junction. Lots of cones ready to go before the bridge in either direction.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    This is the company named on the diagram Cllr Work tweeted -

    http://hbsscotland.co.uk/road-safety-barriers-scotland/traffic-management-jobs

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Seems ALL traffic currently being diverted -

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/865266912917323776

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. minus six
    Member

    superb work on this thread, chapeau

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "superb work on this thread"

    Seems so.

    Just shouldn't have been necessary!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. Blueth
    Member

    Noticed the bollards today on driving to Fife. On the way back however I spotted someone, having followed the bollards, walking his bike on the grass to get to Cramond Brig.

    Anyone know if the underpass is actually signed as part of this? It's fairly well hidden if you don't know it's there.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "Anyone know if the underpass is actually signed? It's fairly well hidden if you don't know it's there."

    Good point, it's very much round the corner of the corner.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. acsimpson
    Member

    I don't know about the signs at the west side but if they are similar to the east side I can see why someone might not find the underpass:

    (There's three separate diversions signed in that picture)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. Klaxon
    Member

    There's no diversion? /s

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. minus six
    Member

    not only does it make no sense, its also getting in the way of the substandard width shared-use pavement.

    over the dyke with it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. minus six
    Member

    the more you grok this, the more ludicrous it gets

    is that preposterous anti-sign supposed to just stay there obscuring the national route one cycle path for a year or more, til they fix the bridge ?

    council officials and deployment crews are living on planet feckwit

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. HankChief
    Member

    From Cllr Work
    "
    Confirmed that barriers will be provided but cones in place as temp measure. Route will be shared, speed reduced to 30mph while cones out.

    Speed will be raised to 40mph when barriers are up. I did ask if it could be kept at 30mph. Hope the system works ok. Let me know

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Norman Work (@CllrNormanWork)
    19/05/2017, 5:38 pm
    @CyclingEdin @SpokesLothian Have asked all signs to be checked and corrected if need be.

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    This is obviously good.

    Didn't realise how easy it was to alter speed limits!(?)

    "

    Norman Work (@CllrNormanWork)
    19/05/2017, 5:29 pm
    @CyclingEdin @SpokesLothian Council have put out cones today and reduced speed limit. Solid barriers still to be put in place and proper signage should be correct.

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    reggie tricker (@reggietricker)
    19/05/2017, 18:48
    #fakenews @CyclingEdin @hank_chief am vs pm

    http://pic.twitter.com/BGy4PyoYwi

    "

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Anyone ridden it yet? I'll probably go out that way for a wee blast this evening and see what's what.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. handcyclist
    Member

    I cycled the diversion from Kirkliston direction this afternoon, it is so nearly useful for me.

    My recumbent handcycle has limited ground clearance and unfortunately there isn't a dropped kerb at the closed bus stop to allow access onto the path which goes around and through the underpass.
    I managed to get through by waiting for a gap in the oncoming traffic, dodging around the cones on the A90 to turn into the army road and then managed to get across the grass and onto the underpass path.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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