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Burnshot flyover

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  • Started 7 years ago by fiefster
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  1. crowriver
    Member

    I'll probably come back from West Lothian that way on Sunday. Will be interesting to see how it works coming into town, contraflow style.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    I went that way in both directions on Saturday.
    On the way out of town once under the underpass I went right and fairly rapidly realised that I was going into the MoD territory (you can kind of see why they thought that's what the diversion who be). It isn't super-obvious when you come out of the underpass that you have to go left and round the corner onto the main road and I didn't realise that the idea was that you cycle up the pavement and pulled out onto the road before getting back in behind the cones.

    After that I was pretty impressed - coming back the other way there's even a pedestrian crossing at the top of the hill so that you can stop the traffic to get over the slip road if you wish to.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. handcyclist
    Member

    I used this diversion both ways on Sunday and the new ramp by the bus stop works well.
    Since my handcycle has the turning circle of a super tanker, I do have to do a double shuffle at the western end going between the path and the underpass but this is a small price to pay for the convenience.
    Thanks for all involved in getting this diversion implemented.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. crowriver
    Member

    "fairly rapidly realised that I was going into the MoD territory"

    There's a clue in the big yellow signs saying "WARNING MOD PROPERTY. GUARD DOGS ON PATROL".

    I used the underpass, the nice new footway, and the ramp on Sunday heading out of town. It was pretty good: only complaint is it's easy to get on the wrong side of the cones from the bus stop heading north. Not immediately obvious you're off track because of the outer row of cones with lights attached. Had to duck under the "ropes" connecting the inner cones to get back on track.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

  6. chdot
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  7. neddie
    Member

    The bridge will be demolished in late-October. The cyclist diversion in place will be unaffected - the contraflow on the NB slip road and the underpass will remain.

    More information about the closure will be published via Edintravel and other organisations closer to the time.

    https://twitter.com/SpokesLothian/status/900446285999820803

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    https://kevinlang.mycouncillor.org.uk/2017/10/27/burnshot-bridge-to-be-demolished-24-november/

    The old bridge will be demolished over the weekend of 24/27th November. Ped/cycle routes unaffected...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. stiltskin
    Member

    Watch out on the diversion when going up the ramp onto the kerb at the bottom: The leaves are covering the area making it really difficult to see where the ramp starts.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. HankChief
    Member

    While looking for another tweet, I stumbled across one from Cllr Work saying that they will shortly be making the temporary cycle lane permanent.

    https://twitter.com/CllrNormanWork/status/930210572725039104

    Interesting...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. fimm
    Member

    Is the bridge coming down and not being replaced? Otherwise they're going to have to make that diversion a lot nicer for me to want to use it in preference to the bridge... and bear in mind if you are going to cross the A90 then you going to be cycling out the road towards Craigies so you're probably going to be a reasonably confident roadie and not likely to take an awkward but away from traffic diversion over an easy direct route.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. HankChief
    Member

    Bridge is coming down later this month and will be replaced next summer.

    As you say, the bridge Isn't the worst bit of a trip to Craigies

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. PS
    Member

    If they replace the bridge then they worst bit (for me) of the two available routes will be the tight right hander to get from the pavement path to the entrance to the underpass. Fear of toe overlap on my front wheel causes me to take this very gingerly. Throw in the added inconvenience, time and risk of crossing the carriageway twice and I'll stick to the road.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. PS
    Member

    Actually, given the exiting (on pavement) path on the city-side of the bridge, I'm not sure what this new path would achieve?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. acsimpson
    Member

    They have built what looks like a temporary fit bridge parallel to the flyover. I'll try and post some pictures later.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    I feel an email coming on...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. Blueth
    Member

    Nasty underpass? I used to use it a lot and the only problem (now that kerbs have been lowered) was leaf build up in the autumn. This could surely be managed readily enough.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    So, from Cllr Work, this is as much as he has:

    A new permanent footpath/cycleway is currently being designed which will replace the temporary contra-flow and traffic barriers currently in place on the Northbound slip lane. This new path will provide a continuous link between Burnshot Road and the A90 into Edinburgh, without having to cross Burnshot Bridge, so will also be of benefit to pedestrians and cyclists following the construction of a new bridge.

    Sounds like if you want to go on the road you still will be able to, but the current temporary route will also be made permanent. I think that is good - choice for those that wish.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. acsimpson
    Member

    As promised here is the new (temporary?) footbridge. I suspect it's for workers access, although hopefully will also be open to public. It appears to have gates on either end though so I'm not sure.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. Blueth
    Member

    Earlier announcement said that a service bridge would be put in - that'll be it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. crowriver
    Member

    Any improvement to the current cones arrangement will be most welcome.

    As HC says, good to have a choice of routes once the new bridge is built next year.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

  23. acsimpson
    Member

    Hands up anyone who believes the pedestrian and cycle route will actually be unaffected. Will they be putting a temporary crossing in place for the eastern slip road?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Stickman
    Member

    ...once the new bridge is built next year.

    Local councillor Kevin Lang says that the funding for it hasn't been committed yet. Will that be a formality?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. paddyirish
    Member

    Will that be a formality?

    It's a road, innit?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. stiltskin
    Member

    At the moment the diversion has large tipper lorries & diggers occupying the entire width. Is that meant to happen?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. HankChief
    Member

    There does seem to be lots of work going on on the diversion route. Looks like a wide path once it's done (if slightly pointless)

    Didn't get chance for a good look as was travelling à voiture.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. scotti
    Member

    The Queensferry community council has posted brief details of a consultation on the replacement flyover on their facebook page.
    Not sure if this link to a pdf will work.

    new flyover proposal

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Works fine -

    Pedestrians/cyclists – Due to the relatively low numbers of pedestrians using the bridge, the footpath/cycleway will be a shared facility but will be 250mm wider than previously. Additionally there will be a 500mm separation zone between the footpath and the road. The parapet will be raised to 1400mm. This is in accordance with current standards and guidance from Sustrans.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. ih
    Member

    Okaaay - but what infra will there be to join and leave the shared pavement at each side of the bridge? Motorised traffic is not noted for its moderate speed there.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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