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"Calls for crackdown on ‘selfish’ drivers parking on pavements"
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Posted 8 years ago #
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Strange nobody ever mentions the cost from damage. It takes no time at all for the illegally parked delivery vans on Leith Walk to turn the newly-laid paving slabs into crazy-paving.
Posted 8 years ago # -
The Pavement Parking law was meant to come in last year, I can't understand why it is still not in place.
Posted 8 years ago # -
3 of first 10 comments mention cyclists.
Some day, I'll read an EEN article about the zoo's pandas, and 30% of the comments will be blaming cyclists for the lack of pregnancy.
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Oh, and BTW, if you see cars blocking pavements, take a pic and tweet it to
https://twitter.com/HumzaYousaf
and ask why, after 10 years of SNP being in charge, this is still legal.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Poor Ciorstaidh, the solution focussed polis told her to go in the passenger door but she has a high central console.
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Was it ever illegal to park on the pavement or is it a case after the car was invented in 1896 labour , conservative and liberal governments did not ban payment parking on the pavement for 114 years, then the SNP got in and in the 10 years the SNP in office they failed to put this ban in place that had eluded other parties for over a century -), or is it a case parking on the payment was banned and a party changed legislation removing the ban and failed to put a new ban in place?
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Never mind that Ed1, poor Ciorstaidh has even been verbally abused trying to stop people parking on the grass outside her flat.
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I reckon we should just start walking over the top of any cars parked on the pavement.
If they can magically get on the pavement without driving there, then I can magically get from the front to the back of the car without walking over or round it... ;-)
Posted 8 years ago # -
Same arguments against it as with 20mph: "of course pavement parking should be banned in some streets where its appropriate; just not where I want to park"
Posted 8 years ago # -
Plenty of cities in France deal with this by putting up metal bollards all over the city centre pavements.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Or we could use those bronze pigeons or some Paolozzi feet?
Or Sheffield stands?
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Would poor Ciortadh private car park and private pavement be covered by any new legislation in theory?; if so in practice doubtful Edinburgh enforcement have time to police private car parks?, driving a car in fountain bridge that you cannot access from the passenger door seems somewhat remiss. I have had to use the boot to get in my car when parked at the station if only had to use the passenger door I would be quite joyous.
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The more general problem is that because so many people are now driving, there is just no way there could ever be enough people to enforce anything.
Back in the day, when there weren't so many cars, a police officer would come and tick you off for parking on the double yellows, having a faulty headlight, etc.
Now these things are completely endemic.
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If only the money from penalties could be used for enforcement there wouldn't be a shortage of police officers.
Wipers up strikes me as a simple way to inconvenience the pavement parking protagonists without causing any damage. I'm not confrontational enough to walk over a car.
Posted 8 years ago # -
"Or we could use those bronze pigeons or some Paolozzi feet?
Or Sheffield stands?"
Or a wonderous sculptural combination of all three?
Posted 8 years ago # -
I see they've put lots of shiny metal bollards at the edge of the pavement' along with double-red lines, on Leith Walk just before the turn into Pilrig Street.
Never seen a problem with anyone parking on the pavement there, but it'll stop anyone trying now. However, it hadn't stopped the taxi parking up on the double-reds by the bollards yesterday evening so the driver could nip into Cash Converters for a wee neb.
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"I'm not confrontational enough to walk over a car."
Some folk are though, especially round Leith way, especially after a few shandies. Someone on the local Fb group was complaining that one or more people had done just that to their car. I hadn't the heart to enquire if it was parked on the pavement or blocking a dropped kerb at the time...
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It would be criminal damage to walk over a car. It would currently be legal to park on the pavement from what understand(even if a bit silly that it is), even if in future it is not legal I am not sure this would give much mitigation in court
Someone may have vandalised car because was parked in their way but may be because they did not like the football sticker, or may be just bored, or the car looked expensive or it looked cheap.
I had a car that had union British flag on the side ( it came with these flags as was a limited edition mgb from the 70s) and someone kicked the mirror off. This was self-explanatory why someone would vandalise this car, but previous had an old astra and an old maestro and someone kicked the mirror off, had a seria and someone burnt it out, had a maestro and someone jumped the roof.
It may be because was in the way was parked (these were not parked on pavement), but much like a bike being vandalised would not assume in the first instance related to the way parked.
Posted 8 years ago # -
It takes a lot of acrobatics to believe that driving on the pavement is illegal and parking on the pavement is not illegal are unconnected statements with no inherent contradiction.
I doubt the well-refreshed citizens of the Independent Socialist Republic of Leith need much prompting to make that inference.
Posted 8 years ago # -
It would be criminal damage to walk over a car
meh, park it right and you'd* give people less of an excuse to be vandals.
Personally I've always been fascinated by goth style leather wrist straps maybe with tungsten tipped heads rather than rounded rivets. If a person is so inconsiderate that they can't see its inconvenient and potentially dangerous to force pedestrians, buggies, wheel chair users etc on to the road to go round their poorly parked car why should I care if their precious gets damaged. I'm quite sure the police would put as much effort in as they do for bike theft.
*the royal you not you as an individual
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The more general problem is that because so many people are now driving, there is just no way there could ever be enough people to enforce anything.
I reckon enormous progress could be made with 3 people. It's not necessary to catch everyone, or even most, there just has to be enough of a risk of getting caught.
(And sufficient penalties for those who are caught - e.g. £100 fixed penalty.)
Posted 8 years ago # -
(And sufficient penalties for those who are caught - e.g. £100 fixed penalty.)
This is actually fairly lenient. If your car is lifted in Edinburgh, it'll cost you at least £180 to get it back.Posted 8 years ago # -
triple parked on leith walk this morning, usual culprits plus big lorries. Two la favorita cinquecentos round near Pilrig parked for free.
needa nice bit of segregated cycle lane down that way for sure. Break your car when you park on that stuff.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Recently spotted council van parked half on the pavement and half on the zigzag white lines of a pedestrian crossing. Hope the council can take this issue seriously and set a good example to other road and pavement users.
Posted 8 years ago # -
@biketrain
Sadly, the white zig-zags are no longer sacred.
I saw a Taxi parked on them the other night at the Grassmarket zebra - supposed to be a professional driver, sheeesh.
Posted 8 years ago # -
My brother-in-law is a parking warden and he gets mighty annoyed that 1) they can't book them as it is a police matter and 2) even if the police see it happening they normally just ignore it.
Posted 8 years ago # -
1) they can't book them as it is a police matter
White zig-zags are dual enforceable, aren't they? Both council and police can deal with it. Police can give you penalty points in addition to a fine though.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Its endemic now and hard coded into lorry drivers DNA.
I walked back to the office from Edinburgh Park Tram stop the other day, and outside the wee shop the pavements are all broken on one side.
Although there are a few porky office workers around, its clear that it is caused by delivery trucks - and in that particular spot there is zero reason to go up on the kerb, they are just so used to it !!
Posted 8 years ago # -
Today spotted why so many think that parking attendants are just a money making scheme (even though they aren't really). 'Senior Parking Attendant' walked past four cars and vans parked at top of Marchmont Road on double yellow lines. None were loading. Turns left into Thirlestane Road. Ignores two cars parked on double yellows at end (one may have counted as loading.). Starts checking row of cars parked in permit holders only section.
Which group of cars is causing a social problem that needs tackled? Clue: not the one the 'blue meanie' started tackling.
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