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NEARLY half of cyclists feel unsafe when out and about on the roads of Edinburgh

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  • Started 8 years ago by Murun Buchstansangur
  • Latest reply from gembo

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  1. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    according to the latest findings of a city-wide survey

    Surprised it's as low as that to be honest.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/nearly-half-of-cyclists-feel-unsafe-on-edinburgh-roads-1-4404822

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Neil McKenzie, owner of McKenzie Cars Private Hire in South Queensferry, said he backed the use of 20mph to make roads safer but only in certain areas rather than a blanket approach. He said: “The general consensus in the back front of the taxi is that’s it’s unworkable – that’s the most commonly used phrase."

    Fixed that for him.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    Ah, yes, only in the specific areas I do not need to drive through. I think there are positive noises coing from some drivers. I think the 20mph is going to be a success but we muist continue to engage our brethern driving the taxiis. You would think they would like it, fares up to 50% more??

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I have learned not to feel unsafe. I know perfectly well that I am in frequent danger but I have learned to discard this knowledge.

    The question is how many people feel unsafe on their sofas.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "fares up to 50% more??"

    Taximeters aren't just on time.

    Maybe less income, lower fuel/maintenance costs?

    Think some cabbies are worried about 'can't you go any faster' from back seats - with potential for lower tips.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. neddie
    Member

    Taximeters should be changed to time only, to remove the incentive for speeding.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. dougal
    Member

    I remember an anecdote from one of these professional drivers of government ministers etc, that when they were asked to drive faster (or even, to break the limit, consequences be damned) they would just accelerate and brake more aggressively while staying within the limit. This seemed to satisfy people.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Edinburgh Bike Co-op need my reviews of electricty

    As Captain Beefheart sang. Crusing along at 20 mmph in the 20 mph zones freaking out the drivers, thrusting away from the Iron Men at the lights, o vertaking five cyclists in one go all while looking serene. Taxi drivers hanging back because they cannot figure out what is going on. I am with the Captain on my electric bike (see also the great song from Mr Boom - E-lec-trici-TAY)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    'Edinburgh Bike Co-op need my reviews of eccentricity'

    Easy...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Edinburgh Bike Co-op need my reviews of electricty

    I got sold some bad electricity once. Never buying on the street again.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    @chdot, not like you to put words into my mouth

    @IWRATS I told you about that fake electricity, just does not have the pep the real stuff packs

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. paddyirish
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  13. lorlane
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    "I have learned not to feel unsafe."

    I think I had done that too, but I've returned to cycling this week after a lengthy hiatus (so unlearned all the bravo) but previously cycled daily to work for around 2 years, 5 miles each way. I feel fine on the path stretches but seriously stressed on the road.

    In three days, I've had some horrible close passes, someone trying to edge in to the side of me as I came around a roundabout and almost being rammed as I tried to get out of the filter lane as I was going straight on.

    Sharing the road with these types of driver is not pleasant.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Th electric bike is very habit forming. You can take primary neatly all the time. I was overtaken today but the cyclist was also on an electric bike :-)

    Ironically the power is off in Balerno town tonight due to heavy electricity. I think I am about to induct my 16 year old son into the world of Chris Morris. This is what I call an education.i

    He says it was pretty funny like the Diplomatic Order Of Planets (DOOP) in futurama. But it was a bit the same thing over and over

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Greenroofer
    Member

    For what it's worth, I was pootling west along Colinton Road this morning wearing a heart rate monitor, with my pulse in the low 90's. At the two-stage pelican crossing at Meggetland, a person driving a car tried to fit their car between me (in primary) and the railings of the pedestrian crossing, which caused us to come into conflict and forced them to a halt (although there was no actual contact).

    The trace from my HRM shows my pulse shooting up from 90 to a peak of 136 as this incident happened: I've actually got a trace of what a 'heart in the mouth' moment looks like...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. minus six
    Member

    For the everyday road bicyclist, a consequence of "learning" not to feel unsafe is the inevitability of frequent and sudden adrenaline spikes, and strategic management of rapid onset stress.

    There's an adrenocortical and hypothalamic feedback loop, if you will.

    We all try to go with the flow on the road, cycling being a natural zen activity, but even so there's usually at least a couple of episodes a week for me that are serious enough that they have to be reckoned with, one way or another.

    So what about high cortisol / adrenal fatigue etc..

    Are these motons giving me an increased brain cancer risk?

    I don't really know what to think. Are there any more beers in the fridge?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Coming from years of commuting switching to electric bike this week I have felt safer. Not sure how safe someone just starting out might feel on the electric but would like to find out. I favour the step through version we have at work as it is safer because of the step through and its much wider handlebars whivch give you the feel of commanding the road. I sort of fell off using the version with the crossbar outside the fiddlers arms at the grassmarket but I have fallen there before in same controlled way under my own steam. I think the road line there pulls me into the kerb and then I go off to the pavement. I did have heavy load on both sides. Weighs a ton. Also keeping it in top gear and blitzing the battery is maybe not so clever?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. minus six
    Member

    switching to electric bike this week

    "Judas !"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Judas!

    I don't believe you.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    @bax, wild stab feeling cocky as guessed your favourite Bowie period but would you mot agree that Blood On The Tracks is Bob Dylan's best album?

    Posted 8 years ago #

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