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Pavement parking - another consultation.... (and implementation)

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  1. Dave
    Member

    Incredibly narrow streets given the apparent age of the houses. Wonder what the planners were thinking!

    I've noticed that most of the pavement parking hotspots around us have returned to regular pavement parking, so perhaps what will happen in Bangholm streets is that there won't be an exemption but also no enforcement, nod wink etc.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. Morningsider
    Member

    @Dave - if you look at a satellite view, it seems like the houses were built with garages to the rear, served by a small access lane in each block. The access lanes look too narrow for modern cars and I suspect many garages have been converted or demolished.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    The houses were laid out in the 1920s, neat little front gardens and nice big rear gardens with access lanes. Was prospective car ownership part of residential planning thinking back then?

    All those angled garages off the back lane north between Bangholm Park and Clark Road are more recent additions; they weren't part of the original scheme, although the first garages appeared in the early 1950s, and most of them had been erected by about 1970. This means that there is basically an entire generation or so who've never known there not to be garages.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. Morningsider
    Member

    @Arellcat - seems reasonable. Although there is (or in some cases, was) off-street parking available. As ever, people prefer to park on-street as it is more convenient for them.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    For what it's worth, the original assessment for these streets did recommend exempting these streets. Page 35 on here: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/34201/footway-parking-executive-summary-and-main-report

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I have the teeniest violin playing in my head as this is extremely nearby. Though I’m not sure driving over the pavement to access parking is much better than the pavement variety.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    Is it really the streets that are “narrow”, or is it that cars have imperceptibly and inexorably become larger over the years, to the point of obese?

    Saw an old Ford Orion family car from the 1980s parked up last night, and it was minuscule compared to the other motors surrounding it

    This is only going in one direction - that cars* eventually become as wide as coaches and lorries. Then we’ll have the motor lobby campaigning to increase the width limit, along with everything else, including waistlines

    *if you can still call them cars

    Posted 5 months ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Ford Orion was a big car in the 80s! Not as big as a Cortina or a Granada though.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  9. acsimpson
    Member

    Measuring on google maps suggests the road is just over 3.6m wide while the average car is now 1.8m wide.

    @Arrelcat, where did you get the history of the garages from? The council atlas 1940s aerial pictures suggests at least one garage was there in the 40s.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  10. neddie
    Member

    Ford Orion is 1.68m wide. So 2 could easily pass on a 3.6m road, leaving 24cm clearance

    Posted 5 months ago #
  11. Arellcat
    Moderator

    @acsimpson, just ballparking the years based on looking at as many of the NLS-hosted OS 25-inch and 1:1250 maps as I had time for.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  12. AS
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  13. acsimpson
    Member

    Thanks, I guess it's not surprising that maps lag behind the aerial footage.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  14. chdot
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