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Cycle Commuting 101 aka Ross Has Got A Job

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  • Started 13 years ago by rosscbrown
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  1. rosscbrown
    Member

    Howdy all,

    Can any body give me a brief introduction to cycle commuting - what things do I need to know. I've finally found a job (temporary contract, but still) so I'll be taking the bike to work each morning.

    Also, seeing that I'm soon to be employed, it's open season on bike accessories. Thinking about some Ayup lights - any comments on that? And a new rack - I have a seat-post type thing and while I like it quite a bit; it is not too good for heavier loads.

    Any other accessories I should consider - you know, so I can commute safely? Thinking about a GPS cycle computer too - just the essentials for commuting really :P Nothing to do with my love of gadgets. Honest!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    Whence and whither? What parking/clothes-storage/cleansing facilities at the workplace? Are you required to wear stupid uncomfortable office-clothing? If so, does the distance/effort required make commuting in office-wear possible, particularly if there's nowhere for things to be stored overnight there?

    I'd always tend towards readily-available-battery-powered stuff for commuting as they can be quickly replaced at almost any shop to make you legally able to ride the roads home if your cells die as you leave on a winter evening. The only people I've heard mention AyUps are the off-road-bike-snobs in the office bike snob club. They would seem fine for trundling through dark woodland but don't appear to have a dip setting for not irritating people on off-road paths (a small group of them, kitted out for night riding on the Pentlands, passed me yesterday evening on the WoL path). Apparently less expensive than they used to be now that they have a UK distributor.

    What lugs do you have for rack-fitting?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. Stepdoh
    Member

    Before you buy the gps it's the boring triumvirate of Repair Kit, Tyre Levers, Pump. As particularly at the moment there are a legion of hawthorn bushes just waiting to claw at your tubes.

    Possibly bus/walk it the first day so you can scope out the facilities, parking/showers/place to hang wet kit. And just remember shoes, as clip clopping about the office is a really bad look :)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Have a scan of http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/search.php?search=commuting

    "Thinking about a GPS cycle computer too - just the essentials for commuting really"

    Um, how many different routes to work do you want to try?

    http://edinburgh.cyclestreets.net

    Have you got a 'phone smart enough to run the web?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. rosscbrown
    Member

    The shortest route looks to be around 1.6 miles however time and weather permitting I'd like to take something of a detour and cover around 5 miles each way.

    I spotted some covered bike parking at the office and the hiring manager told me that a number of people cycle in each morning - but I don't know what, if any, facilities they have. The company seems fairly informal and accommodating though. No need for formal attire.

    Right now I have a set of CatEye lights - they are fairly good for being seen. I often cycle to my parents' house which is six miles down an unlit road so some lights to see with are on my shopping list.

    A single set of AyUps come in at £180 - expensive but not overly excessive. I really like the NiteRider Minewt 700 Dual light set, but at £300 they are a little beyond my price range.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

    If i were you i'd walk that, but i like a nice walk in the morning.

    For extending your route, i'd be inclined to pootle to work you should be able to manage a 2 miles with out needing a shower (presumably you can shower at home ;)) then do a nice long 10 mile run home. You'd get more benefit from a ten mile run than two five milers and you don't have to worry about being late in the morning nor smelling in the evening.

    Any half decent light set will be fine for town wouldn't spend more than £30 for a town light set.

    Unlight road lights, you could make your own its good fun and much cheaper or hit up crc i wouldn't spend more than £100 if you're not throwing your self down a mountain with them.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. rosscbrown
    Member

    I've got a 2010 Tricross Sport - I think it has the standard fixings for a rack.

    Stepdoh: Thanks for reminding me. Was getting a little carried away with the toys there - I'll be sure to get some tools and consumables for road side repair.

    chdot: I'm a bit of a data geek. I don't really need GPS to find my way in Edinburgh (Well, I say that now...). I just like the idea of spreadsheets of data from my cycling to analyse. Or and charts. :-)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "I just like the idea of spreadsheets of data from my cycling to analyse"

    Well obviously I would say get an iPhone...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    I vaguely looked at cycle computers offering downloadability recently and there are more than I thought there were, though I don't recall that any properly explained whether the data can be exported to anything other than their proprietary software.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. Morningsider
    Member

    From experience I would say the minimum you need is:

    Spare inner tubes
    Easy to use pump (get one that can easily pump to a decent pressure)
    Tyre levers
    Multi-tool
    Lights - your CatEyes should do
    Decent gloves

    Also, mudguards - keeps you dry and stops you from covering fellow commuters in spray. I can vouch for the full lenth SKS guards as being light, tough and effective.

    I would argue against fancy lights, GPS etc. as you may get heartily tired of removing and attaching these each day to prevent them getting nicked and they do seem a bit excessive for commuting.

    You might want to invest in good waterproof trousers and jacket. No need to break the bank - Altura produce some good stuff for not too much (e.g. Nevis jacket). Unless you cycle like a demon I doubt you will need a shower after a couple of miles so you probably won't need other cycle specific clothing, for communting at least.

    I pefer to use a rucsac to panniers as it is much more convenient to carry off the bike, although I try and just use my seat wedge bag if possible to prevent sweaty back. Still, I know lots who would disagree.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "I don't recall that any properly explained whether the data can be exported to anything other than their proprietary software"

    I've lost track of this area of 'technology', but I believe that sites such as MapMyRide can upload directly from most(?) GPS devices and do all sorts of things with the data.

    Personally I've never been into 'fitness'/performance and just used GPS things to record routes for uploading to MMR and EveryTrail.

    Now with apps it's so much simpler and you can even get cadence add-ons.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. Claggy Cog
    Member

    Congratulations on the job!!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I've lost track of this area of 'technology', but I believe that sites such as MapMyRide can upload directly from most(?) GPS devices and do all sorts of things with the data.

    Indeed it does. Friendly for most formats, GPX, KML, CSV etc. I've had no problems interfacing it with a Garmin GPS. Wish I could say the same for interfacing a Garmin GPS with MapSource

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Congratulations on the job Ross and welcome to the commuting club. I'd pretty much echo everything above. You'll soon find out (the hard way!) if you need warmer gloves etc. I'd recommend getting a buff. It's a fairly cheap and handy piece of gear that can be used to keep various parts of your face and/ or head warm, can be stuffed in a pocket etc. And you can also start collecting them and then proudly announce you've got more and better buffs than Anth and myself.

    As for waterproof trousers I think they are love or loathe but you will find out. Personally I've never found the need for them, but it's personal preference. My attitude is that you're going to get wet no matter what and a decent set of tights will keep the worst of the water out and act like a wetsuit to keep you warm-ish.

    As for how to carry your gear, start with a rucsac if you've already got one (minimum outlay). If you find out you don't like it, it's causing sweaty back syndrome or - as I find - restricting the movement of your head to look behind - you can consider panniers or a courier-style bag. I use both, depending on how much I have to carry to work on any given day.

    Both are made from waterproof material, I never saw the point in buying non-waterproof ones only to have to then buy and fit waterproof covers that you have to remove to get into the things. The covers also can't cover the whole thing - straps and clips have to poke out - so water will always find its way in.

    There's a lot to be said for vests. Merino if you're up for the investment, you'll find them warmer if they get damp and they'll (you can get a good icebreaker one for 50 bucks, great for all sorts of activities) feel nicer on your skin and they'll go a LOT further inbetween washes (so you'll need to buy fewer).

    Always carry spare batteries.

    I highly recommend not buying the cheapest pump around. I'm a bit of a salesman for Lezyne Road Drive pumps. If you need to rely on a pump to easily get a tyre up past 100 PSI and to be able to work the thing with freezing cold hands, in the rain and not have to hold the adapter onto the valve, and not have it rip the neck off the valve, then it's well worth the £30. Everyone that I've let play with it is heartily impressed and I find myself jumping to the front of the queue to help with a cry of "I'll pump" when there's a puncture on an ERC run.

    Oh, and always stop to check if a cyclist in mechanical distress is OK and needs any help :)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    The tyres on the Tricross might get you through the winter without too many punctures on a ten mile round commute. I wore out the back one over a winter on a 20 mile round commute. Rack and double panniers take their toll. A Blackburn rack is a good piece of kit, if not flashy. I have one on my tricross. It needed a fair few washers on each side. Tricross most definitely designed for mudguards as previously posted- essential. When the tyres wear out and the punctures start regularly, switch to Scwalbe MArathon Plus if you absolutely, never,ever want a puncture (well once in blue moon). Otherwise cheaper and faster option Continental Gatorskins.

    Our bikeshed at work was totally chock a block this week. A Flying Scot from the front of the building came round to the shed but there was a fixie I had never seen (could be the fixie guy has two now his winter fixie and his summer fixie which would be funny, or he has a fixie friend) two other tourers I had never seen before. Both with gatorskins. MAybe wiggle has them on a deal?

    Quite a few breaches of etiquette in the shed. I have a very long cable lock on a combination so no need for key(£25 from The Bike Chain) so I can put the front wheel into the slot and loop round onto the frame. However most regular D-locks would only fix the front wheel, so with the quick release wheels of the modern age any organised theives could make off with the bikes. THus the most popular bays in the shed are right at the edge and the slots don't get used rather the uprights of the shed. Or people put their bikes across three slots which is shocking Moneypenny.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. ruggtomcat
    Member

    Yeah I agree with Kaputnik, get you clothing choices right before you look at gadgets, for the cost of a GPS and a mega-light you could get fully kitted out in merino base layers and wind proof tights.

    I also recommend Scotchlight, its visibility without batteries and the Altura nightvision for example is well worth the money.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  17. cb
    Member

    The other thread on the go at the moment about the current cold snap has reminded me about another useful commuting tip - knowing what the tempearture is before setting out.

    I have a thermometer in the kitchen with the temperature probe sitting on the outside window ledge.

    With a bit of experience you get to know exactly how many layers you should have on before you set out. I commute in my work clothes so try to avoid getting too hot!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  18. Arellcat
    Moderator

    For year-round commuting comfort, you could try something like:

    Endura MT500 shorts (padded)
    Protective 3/4s (padded)
    Endura Multi-tights (unpadded)
    Endura Thermolite tights (unpadded)

    This way you have at least 14 possible wicking and/or insulative permutations for spring, summer, autumn and winter. Go for the Multi-tights and the shorts if nothing else. On top, a Helly Hansen long-sleeve top and a wicking t-shirt (try the hillwalking shops like Tiso) should cover most temperatures.

    As for lights, Dave here uses the eyeball-searingly bright (and therefore invisible) Ay-Ups I think, but for city commuting I use the Cateye EL-135, plus my (antique) high power lights as and when I need them. A couple of pairs of yellow reflective ankle bands will help in the dark and when it's foggy.

    And as for a rack, ideally go for Blackburn, Tortec or Tubus. None is cheap, but all will last you years and years. Even my old Bor Yeuh Blackburn-copy is 10 or 15 years old now and a bit bent and very scraped, but still ticking. But make sure you take your bike and a pannier into the shop, so that you can find out which will suit you best.

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