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Incident on the canal last Tuesday morning
This morning there were two policemen stopping cyclists at the bridge over Slateford Road asking about an incident that happened last Tuesday at around 8:30am
Apparently someone was punched off their bike and held under the water by their attacker.
The police didn't give too many details but did ask if I could put something on the BUG.
If you seen anything can you phone 101 and ask for Wester Hailes police station?
That sounds nasty. I'm trying to remember anything about last Tuesday morning's trip, but coming up blank so far.
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Nasty incident!
I encountered the (infamous?) cross-dresser last night on the Slateford Aqueduct at around 18:30. I think I heard about him from @spytfyre but in my 2.5 years of daily crossing of the aqueduct it was the first time I have seen him. He was standing there with his bike and shouting at people, half in Polish, half in English (he is Polish). The cyclist in front of me was a bit confused what to do but I got off the bike and pushed through him. Didn't end up in the canal. He seemed to be harmless enough if quite mad.
him...he
"Him" and "he" should be "her" and "she", respectively.
May have seemed harmless, but isn't.
I feel fortunate that I did not encounter any objecting persons ( cross dressing or otherwise ) when I pushed my protest bike and a borrowed double kids trailer over the Slateford aqueduct after POP17. I do not think things would have gone well for me or the 5 foot panda mascot, if we had been confronted.
Fortunately everyone we met was kind enough to make way. I will not try this again with a trailer or panda.
"Him" and "he" should be "her" and "she", respectively.
I have a libertarian streak that sometimes leads me to chose my own pronouns.
Would we not need for the person concerned to tell us what pronouns to use if we're going full PC? Clothes and phenotype tell us nothing, surely?
didn't the police reports of previous incidents use female name/pronoun? that suggests we should do similar.
This is reading like 'we' KNOW who did it...
@chdot
Excellent point. Could have been the middle-aged rocker guy with the Irish wolfhound. She was well tasty with her fists.
No. We are discussing bill's recent encounter with someone who was previously convicted of similar offences.
I'm sure no one has sugested anything else. except perhaps coincidence.
@bill, if it was you heading west who pushed past the shouty woman on the aqueduct last night, then I was the person she was shouting at, on the bike with the big box on the front*. She and I have interactions going back several years. I exercise considerable caution around her.
I concur with SRD: in the reporting of the court case she was involved in, they used the feminine pronoun and first name (Katerina), so I will go along with that.
The guy behind me was a chap I see occasionally. He rides at speed and with considerable style. He has a stylish yellow city bike with hub gears, metal mud guards and flowers painted on it, which looks slightly incongruous because he's a big chap. He told me after we'd passed Katerina that he had encountered her before.
*It's an Elephant Bike. Did I mention that I had one?
"No. We are discussing bill's recent encounter with someone who was previously convicted of similar offences."
Except that it all follows the first post.
Liking the irony of bill being pullsed up for wrong gender pronoun
And of course the classic talking about that instead of the issue of the person pushing folk in at the aqueduct.
Apologies to everyone offended. I based my judgement on what I saw and heard (both gender and nationality). I imagine said person had been discussed here a lot in my pre-CCE days but now I am not sure what search keywords to use.
And apologies for diverting the topic.
@IWRATS Agree. But I am pretty sure the person won't understand the word 'pronoun'.
@Greenroofer I was going east, so probably it wasn't me. Also I am yet to spot an Elephant Bike in the wild.
@gembo hah!
In any case it's very upsetting to see such behaviour. I guess everyone needs a hobby. Does the person get often reported? Would the police intervene?
It seems that I must have been just ahead of Bill and Greenroofer yesterday, I was tucked it tight against the rails at the West end of the Aqueduct when she walk on and just started shouting at me and the cyclist behind.
I just dismounted and walked past. Quite disconcerting.
@bill, fear not . The pub across from my old work used to have a couple of people who were cross dressers who were not so very glam as say Panti Bliss who is a drag queen I know slightly in Dublin.
The people in the pub mostly just sat drinking their pints. None of them pushed people into the canal. The original post with the holding head under is a different and even more serious Modus Operandi. Could be totally unrelated. If related of course I would argue that political correctness might be impeding detection? (or polis have been round her house already, all just speculation) However, the cross dresser who pushes people into the canal has been convicted of this offence.. Katerina is her name. Pushing you in is her game. So far only if you travel east west in the morning when she is going west east and vice versa in the evening. So you confront her head to head.
Speculation
Yes that is what I said, all just speculation. Same extreme behaviour but different MO. Not funny though, the polish crossdresser is dangerous.
I don't understand why this person is allowed on the canal path given their long history of endangering other path users.
Liking the irony of bill being pullsed up for wrong gender pronoun
And of course the classic talking about that instead of the issue of the person pushing folk in at the aqueduct.
^This^ :-/
This morning I was thinking about practicality of holding someone under the water in that section of the canal. I don't think one can do it without getting into water themselves. The banks are quite high and it looks it would take some long arms and skills to do it from the bank.
@bill - quite possible if you can hold their ankles.
At one point I was part of a self defense class that was "every day" items. I went along with my bike and all the bits and bobs that go with, the number of ideas that came from how to use almost anything including the bike to defend yourself was impressive.
From taking helmet off and using it as a shield or backpack/pannier bag
The obvious D-lock/chain/pump/tyre levers/bottle/ as a baton
Spare inner tube as a glove.
Having had encounters with angry people it's worth keeping a pack of dextrose sweets to deal with the adrenaline and shock/anger.
Regrettably I once had cause to strike a dog in the head with a D-lock. It is a very effective weapon.
@IWRATS - I had to punch a donkey once.
@spytfyre
I once watched a pair of Moroccan adolescents have a go at a donkey with a five-foot piece of two-by-two timber. It took a beating that would have killed me without flinching.
If your punch had the slightest impact....
@IWRATS - you must watch some strange films, you didn't get that in Blockbuster / Netflix.
@IWRATS yes it made it let go of my wife's finger. Sharp tap to the nose bone.#
As a culmination of very mad parking causing big tailbacks on high street, usual peds throwing themselves into middle of road, crazy u-turns all through grass market and beyond a dog jumped out of the canal unseen because of high bank side grass causing me and the two cyclists in front to brake hard and sure.
Not quite culmination as I then towed a tandem to Balerno for the summer triathlon which might be a duathlon due to ecoli in thriepmuir
Strange commute home but no donkeys. As Charlie chuck used t say.
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