@berge thanks. How long is the £75 early adoptor offer available for?
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@jdanielp
What happens after 7 hours?
You will receive a penalty point. Currently this means nothing, but at some point they may start to ban users after receiving a certain ammount of penalties.
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How long is the £75 early adoptor offer available for?
Until October
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“Until October”
Beginning or end?
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@Berge
You're clearly ahead of me (and many others). Postgres + OSM etc.... Sounds like fun stuff. You're not completely outside my field of knowledge, but certainly toward the edges of this.Actually one of my reasons for posting the long-ish explanation is the thought that local staff associated with this project should be aware of how simple it is to interact with OSM data. You're undoubtably right that this doesn't scale - that local mapping like this, and simple local edits, aren't something which is sensible to handle at a senior level. One of the benefits of OSM is indeed that it is members of the public that look after it.
But basic editing of OSM is very much simpler than it looks - and I'd put it into the same category as interacting with Twitter or Facebook - something which is helpful and which is, with care, worth the time, and worth learning by local staff.
But as to the higher-level technical stuff....
The docking station information looks to already be available as open data. I've not worked with this yet but others clearly have.
My main thought is that this is a strong way to interact with OSM, and that there's little benefit in anything more technical. However, I see no dates on that data. As a user of GIS data you'll appreciate that dates matter a lot. I'd like to know when this data was created/updated. I'd like access to a simple history of changes (so if I already know that a station has moved, closed, or opened it's immediately obvious whether the data will reflect that). Ideally I'd also like some evidence of accuracy (or alternatively details about how the geographic points have been created - which would provide indirect evidence of accuracy).
Others may have thoughts on more technical stuff (e.g. @chrisfl )
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Today's mild glitches: it took about four minutes for the app to register that I was close enough to the Fountainbridge station to offer me the unlock option, despite there being no other nearby station and the map showing me as being exactly where the station was. Once the unlock button appeared, it was slicker than yesterday - the app immediately told me which dock to get.
Docking at Charlotte Square, I spent three minutes trying to dock to no effect. The next one I tried worked straight away.Posted 5 years ago # -
Can I suggest you think about the nomenclature of payment?
When I fire up the app and it asked me if I have a "subscription" I immediately think of a long-term payment thing - to me a subscription implies a payment that rolls over, not a single one off payment, usually covering a longer period of time. After rooting around awhile I twigged you refer to all payments as subscriptions.
Think about using bus-style terminology - a journey, a day-pass, anything longer than that can then spill over into a weekly, monthly or yearly pass. A subscription would be something you'd set up for monthly or yearly payments, like Netflix or for a magazine or club membership.
Just something to consider...
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Re OSM. I add the initial set of hire docks by taking the open data (JSON format), loading it into QGIS, saving it out again (as GeoJSON or CSV - can recall) and then loading into JOSM. It wasn't much effort, if you're used to the tools.
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@chdot, until the end of September :)
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@wingpig "it took about four minutes for the app to register that I was close enough to the Fountainbridge station to offer me the unlock option"
I had the same thing there last night. I chalked it off to my phone being weakly connected to nearby wifi.
Worked just fine and dandy after switching wifi off!
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My WiFi was off both yesterday and today.
If you've manually selected a station from the map/list, all it would need is a check like the Wetherspoons app has where it says "you appear to be 47m from the pub you're trying to order food from - are you sure about this?" in case it doesn't think you are where you say you are. It's not as if you stand to gain anything by unlocking a bike from a station you're not near, where someone else could take it.Posted 5 years ago # -
"Probably comparable to an Elephant in weight, but they're much nicer bikes - Elephant bikes really are crude. Also, EBs are very tall geared; these are like MTBs in comparison. "
Horses for courses. Try carrying 30 or 40kg on a hire bike. Pashley Prontos/Mailstars are built for load carrying: the frames are beefy for that reason. Though there are some cosmetic similarities to the Pronto/Mailstar, the Pashley hire bikes are designed for a different purpose. As for gearing, I really don't find it a huge problem: first gets me up almost any hill (I'm not going to bother trying Arthur's Seat or that first bit of the Pleasance mind you). Third is reasonably pacey though I'd never expect to race on the bike...
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@crowriver of course. It was just a weight comparison. The hire bikes are built extremely sturdily, not to carry weight, but to withstand abuse.
I agree, I think the gearing's absolutely fine. Re Elephant's, if they were building them today the gearing would be lower too. Same as old English Roadsters, they were, by any standards, tall geared. It was kind of the fashion for tall, elegant gears (until you went uphill!).
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I found an example of a system with redistribution credit:
https://www.citibikenyc.com/bikeangels/
You get 1 week free hire for every 20 points of redistribution you do from overfilled to underfilled docks.
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This may sound......daft.......but can you buy "trips" ahead of time and just activate them as required, a la the bus app?
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You get 1 week free hire for every 20 points of redistribution you do from overfilled to underfilled docks.
shame you can't sell the redistribution credit, be a nice pocket money earner for kids.
(Marginally safer than chimney sweeping...)
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Er, has anyone else recieved pushed ads on their phones after installing the app? I did yesterday, uninstalled the app and the ads have disappeared.
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If you've manually selected a station from the map/list, all it would need is a check like the Wetherspoons app has where it says "you appear to be 47m from the pub you're trying to order food from - are you sure about this?" in case it doesn't think you are where you say you are.
Attaching NFC tags to the docks would seem like an inexpensive and simple way of solving the slow GPS issue.
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The reaction of everyone seems to be to look in the front basket for more info on how to use the bikes, they find absolutely nothing helpful, and then walk away a bit bemused.
paulmilne: On my phone (iOS) the app hasn't even requested push notification permission
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@paulmilne no pushed ads on Android for me so far.
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@paulmilne, that’s not possible, there’s nothing in our app asking for permission for push messages.
I bet this is the other “Just Eat” app
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For the first time, on my fourth journey,the app confirmed when I'd successfully returned a bike.
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“on my fourth journey“
You ‘playing’ or are hire bikes now a useful transport option for you?
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Playing/getting extra lunchtime exercise for now, but with the intention of using them for real purposes whenever I can. It'll be useful to have surmounted the fear/uncertainty hurdles when my journeys were optional, rather than hitting them when I have somewhere to be.
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A mystery bonus dock called "Depot" has appeared a couple of times over the last 24h
Wonder why it's being set publicly visible?
By my estimations we need an extra 8 docks a week, every week, until Christmas to hit the goal of 1000 bikes. Will be exciting when they start appearing.
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Are the docks all on pavements? Any taking up valuable car parking space?
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Any taking up valuable car parking space?
Not yet
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I'm a bit surprised that, so far, nobody has commented on the irony, or perhaps cynicism, of a form of healthy exercise being used to promote what is universally accepted as unhealthy fast food. I certainly had a chuckle when I saw the announcement.
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Are the docks all on pavements? Any taking up valuable car parking space?
The set of docks beside the Joseph Black building at KB occupies a good 4 parking spaces.
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the Joseph Black building
My alma mater, where I have carried a bucket of mercury up the stairs.
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