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Edinburgh Cycle Hire Scheme

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  • Started 7 years ago by Harts Cyclery
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  1. Stickman
    Member

    Any news on this? Klaxon's link to the tender says they want it up and running by June...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. bacam
    Member

    The tender deadline was the 30th. Going by the tender documents and adding on the time for the deadline extension, I'd expect the award decision around the 6th of March. In between the two there is "Short listed Bikes required for testing day", so keep your eyes peeled.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

  4. Trixie
    Member

    Even though I have n+1, I'd definitely use an Ofo type arrangement. I'm quite excited about the potential.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I couldn't use oFo because my telephone is too primitive. That said my battery angle grinder is modern so maybe I'll be OK.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. unhurt
    Member

    Can't you just use your lower Acheulean phone as a hand axe and chip the lock away?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. bacam
    Member

    I saw half a dozen mixed hire bikes travelling in a group around the Meadows today. I recognised an ofo, and one of the others had a Transport for Edinburgh ad board over the rear wheel. Looks like they're serious about testing them on cobbles because they went down the west side of George Sq as I was passing.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. ARobComp
    Member

    https://twitter.com/AlexDRobertson/status/965575174358732800

    I spotted the very same bike which is an updated version of the boris bike seen in London. Had a chat with the guy riding it up to the top of the hill on MMW (he seemed to be finding it ... ok to ride) who seemed surprised that I'd instantly guessed what they were doing. "Is it the bike-hire-scheme test day?" was my question.

    The boris-bike type bike he was riding Looked pretty good but the dimensions looked different from a boris. It had thinner tubing and was confirmed to be a touch lighter. Still looked quite robust, but the wheelbase to me also looked a little tighter. Possibly due to different forks. Tyres were the same marathons. Confirmed to have 3 gears. Glad to see the chap testing it was sans helmet. Good on him.

    I also spotted a next bike being ridden by a lycra clad chap with a helm. Looked very commutey.

    There are aparently a few electric bikes as part of the mix.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. Morningsider
    Member

    ARobComp - the new Boris bikes are Pashleys:

    http://www.pashley.co.uk/news/products/pashley-s-new-hire-bike-for-london.php

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

  11. ARobComp
    Member

    @morningsider ahhh yep that's the badger. Great to see pashley getting involved.

    New seat clamp release looks like a good idea. Always frustrating to find a bike with one completed jammed in.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. LaidBack
    Member

    I came across the ofo 'dockless' bike.
    Rode along with guy. Think regular cyclists might find them a bit tame - but they aren't aimed at that market. Really a mobile data harvesting operation.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    This is exciting stuff. But...get on with it already!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. ARobComp
    Member

    Something like Ofo or another dockless system is attractive to me as I live so far outside the city centre that it's unlikely a docking system would ever reach me. Sure there are other challenges with those bikes but there are benefits too.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  16. Klaxon
    Member

    Serco will be announced as winner, using Pashley bikes, according to the EEN

    What they’re describing is some sort of dock/dockless hybrid scheme which would be neat

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Pashley? This is Edinburgh.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Klaxon
    Member

    All replacement or additional bikes in London are now Pashleys too

    https://www.bikebiz.com/news/pashleys-sadiq-cycle-is-streets-ahead-of-the-existing-boris-bike

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Frenchy
    Member

    I'm getting far too excited about the idea of taking one of these down Kirk Brae.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Serco is the preferred bidder for the project, which is due to be launched this summer with 500 bikes and 100 electric bikes.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/boris-bikes-operator-set-to-run-edinburgh-cycle-hire-scheme-1-4729891

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. Tulyar
    Member

    Sorry to disappoint @ARobComp but even Ofo are geofenced and you get penalty charges riding off-piste.

    The Serco offer was anticipated, as at a conference to determine best practice for concession/contracts etc between Councils and Bike schemes their London manager was making such noises.

    The Serco/Pashley system is using a Norwegian software/& ancillaries package to offers a product that appears to be addressing the failings of the bastardised Bixi system that TfL decided they wanted (Bixi does not require the same hard-wired bespoke constructed docking stations as those specified by Tfl, which took months to deliver - Bixi regular units are modular, unloaded from the truck, bolted down, solar panel/mains connected and ready to go)

    It looks as though the new Serco/Pashley system will use 'UK-first' locking system which sounds remarkably like a version of the system first used in 2001 on Die Bahn's Call-a-Bike, and seen on the current Nextbikes in Stirling and Glasgow, where a combined cable and pin system locks the front wheel, and can loop around any fixed object to park the bike, but can also be used with the docking system. This sorts out a big problem with the London system. When a docking point gets filled with bikes, you need to find another fixed dock to return the bike. Excess bikes can thus be parked next to full stands when a surge flow arises.

    What isn't clear yet, are the options for hiring the bikes. Nextbike offers a wide choice, from calling a call centre for the release code, getting an SMS message, using an RFID card, getting a release code from a phone app, or reading a Q/R code from the bike. With a fixed pillar and docking point a further hire option us available. I really do hope that the Edinburgh scheme will integrate as a seamless element of bike hire in cities Scotland-wide from the range of operators now appearing in various locations.

    Nextbike contracted The Bike Station in Glasgow and Recyc-a Bike (IIRC) to maintain bikes and regulate the distribution across the stands, but as yet no detail on how the Edinburgh scheme will be maintained and managed, although Serco provides this support for the London bikes, from a depot near Kings Cross.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Let's hope Edinburgh doesn't follow Paris....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/04/paris-bike-share-scheme-velib-hi-tech-upgrade-problems

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    “Parisians, who are very attached to these self-service bikes, consider that the system they loved has been ruined. We must have a service that works, as fast as possible, to regain users’ trust.””

    So people want them (to work).

    I wonder what those who have ‘given up’ are doing instead(?)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Metro.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    “Metro“

    Most, probably.

    It’s one reason big cities are keen on bike schemes - cheaper than adding more metro/underground capacity - though London manages to get plenty of money for new lines!

    No idea if CEC/LB has done any serious assessment about whether/where there might be some relief on bus useage/overcrowding.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    200 of the new bikes will be on the city’s streets by this summer with more to come as and when they are manufactured by Stratford upon Avon based cycle company, Pashley.

    https://www.theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2018/05/edinburghs-bike-scheme-will-be-signed-off-soon/

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

  28. chdot
    Admin

    Elsewhere -

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. Roibeard
    Member

    Hopefully our cycle hire scheme will just be the thin end of the wedge.

    Detroit (Motor City) have a pilot specialised cycle hire scheme to add to their MoGo system.

    Robert

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. Stickman
    Member

    Launch delayed until September. Ebikes won't be until next August.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-cycle-hire-scheme-launch-delayed-until-autumn-1-4741381

    Posted 6 years ago #

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