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The cost does seem to be putting people off. Could there be a monthly pass/annual rental?
For me, I think the cost needs to be less than the bus or else I'd just get the bus. The sweet spot would be £1 for 30 mins, but that's only because my cycle home takes a little less than 30 mins!
New docks at Edinburgh Park Central tram stop and Ingliston P&R. Not particularly sure who would use the later however.
@cyclealex, folk arriving at EPC and discovering that the tram is cancelled/too full to take them back to their car.
How long has there been a dock in Joppa?
No ebikes on the racks this morning. Too icy maybe.
New docks at Edinburgh Park Central tram stop and Ingliston P&R. Not particularly sure who would use the later however.
Put one at the Airport and you could quite effectively undercut the existing public transport!
What's the betting the airport have blocked it because they know they'll lose the surcharge they receive from the tram fares?
I FOI'd Transport for Edinburgh last year to ask what proportion of tram or bus fares go the airport. they refused on commercially sensitive grounds. Does anyone have proper intel on this?
@HankChief did some investigations on this last year:
http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17516&page=2#post-297186
Not sure if a definite figure found?
What's the betting the airport have blocked it because they know they'll lose the surcharge they receive from the tram fares?
Unikely I'd have thought as most people travelling by plane have quite a bit of luggage. Add in the fact that cycling up Eastfield Road is no fun at all & I would have thought demand would be pretty low.
Annoyingly the open data for e-bikes is a bit rubbish, no way to tell if a dock has e-bikes available. Was hoping to be make a map to see which docks have an e-bike instead of having to scroll in the app.
Would've been quite cool if the trip data said if an e-bike was used so you could see the different types of trips made by them.
Clicking on docks on the map shows whether they have e-bikes.
Or do you mean something like having different coloured dots for docks with e-bikes?
@Frenchy I think @CycleAlex is referring to the machine-readable feed that you can make your own maps out of, like bikesharemap.com. Unfortunately it looks like e-bike bits haven't been standardised yet.
Gave a hard stare to the driver and passenger playing with their phones in a Bike Hire van blocking the dropped kerb from NEPN to Wester Coates Terrace this morning.
[quote]Let’s kick off our Monday with some brand new e-bike stats!
⚡ In the first 3 days, 466 trips were made on our growing fleet of e-bikes!
⚡ On average, each bike is making 5 trips per day![quote]
https://mobile.twitter.com/cyclehire_edi/status/1236986677991804928
There's even a map on Twitter
Glasgow EAPC hiring at 2x rate of regular bikes - often see empty docking points - seem to be a few used by Deliveroo riders in violation of Nextbike T&C, possibly similar in Edinburgh?
Also noting that some Glasgow users don't re-dock (& put bikes back on charge)
9 new racks are going in around SQ, Dalmeny and Kirkliston today (I think). The first one (Borrowman Square) had just been put live when I passed this morning so I stopped for a quick chat.
They are going to get out as far as Port Edgar for full east west coverage.
Edinburgh Cycle Hire have now added the excess charges to their website, and I see that they have tweaked the "beyond 1 hour" price for normal bikes: it is now £0.05 per minute rather than 50p (I think it was?) per extra 30 minutes.
https://edinburghcyclehire.com/how-it-works
I'm really not keen on per-minute charges, which definitely seems rather finicky, and also sort of psychologically compels you to try to hurry (you could even end up racking up quite a cost for an e-bike if you happen to unluckily arrive at a junction at the wrong part of the traffic lights phase and have to wait, which would be very frustrating). If you were paying a more reasonable sum for 30 minute blocks, it would seem fairer.
I'd be willing to pay, say 20p extra per 30 minutes on an e-bike, but now that the freebie period has finished, I really can't see many people being at all keen at 10p/minute. There's surely also a good case for something like "first 5 minutes at no extra charge" in case you have to re-dock the bike after discovering a problem after you un-dock it, or even just to fine-tune the adjusting of the saddle (much easier done when the bike is undocked).
I saw a couple of Just Eat bikes lumbering by in Dalry Road today and I have noticed a lot of the docks are half empty. I assume people have been using them on the quiet streets, maybe after using hand sanitiser on them. It's a welcome sight.
Just Eat hire website shows that new records for bike hires and individual cyclists have been set today!
Topped out at 1589 trips by 1120 people. Not bad!
Amusingly enough, in recent weeks/months it's probably the first time the scheme will have been profitable. Bikes are quite often being used 3/4 times a day, likely by people buying hour/day passes as opposed to the previous main users seeming to be student commuters on cheaper passes.
Haven't seen a nicked/vandalised bike in ages either, which can only be a good thing!
Another record breaker yesterday, 1721 trips taking the total for the month to more than 21000. 7000 more than last May! https://publictransport.io/cyclehire/
Are the numbers increasing because people are preferring them to public transport?
Anecdotally seems to be mostly day trips / exercise rides. Presumably by people who don't cycle normally. Quieter roads help.
Every second bike in the city seems to be JustEat.
Seen a few being ridden accompanying a partner on something lighter with more gears. Cue lead rider looking over shoulder with a 'what's keeping you?' expression.
In USA Lime are scrapping some Uber e-bikes.
E-scooters mean you get no exercise at all but cheaper to make, store and replace.
2,050 journeys today. New record.
I passed a couple on Takeaway bikes. Going along Corstorphine Road. They were going so slowly I ran past them. Admittedly I'm not a very slow runner, and I was putting in some effort, but "running faster than a cyclist" is normally only achievable uphill and off road (I've been the cyclist on the receiving end as well as the runner in that situation).
Yesterday's exercise on a burgher bike took me along the cycleway from Newhaven to Roseburn. It's a good ride in that direction as you have to put in a bit of effort when pedalling, so that you actually get a proper bit of exercise, but also, thanks to the railway engineers, not so steep a climb that it becomes a real slog on these heavy 3-speeds.
I saw quite a few other burgher bikes in use when I was out, including a group of four in flotilla coming the other direction!
(One other thing that I noticed was that although the path was being quite well used, but fortunately wasn't excessively busy, of all the people walking or jogging whom I passed, only one person was walking on the wise side of the path so that they could see oncoming cyclists on the same side, rather than being unable to see cyclists approaching from behind. And to think that some people (rightly) accuse (some) cyclists of not having read the Highway Code. (Oh, this is amusing, it's Rule 2!)
There is a hint in there Davecykl. It bugs me when people walk on the "opposite" side, you shouldn't need to see on coming cyclists the cyclist should be able to slow an pass the pedestrian without any fuss.
When both users are approaching on the same side of the path there is no where for the bike to go if the other side of the path is occupied, when everyone is traveling in the same direction the cyclist can slow to walking pace until the other side is clear. Other wise everyone has to stop.
I think walking on the left is totally sensible/preferred, it reduces conflict. When the path is busy, e.g. canal at rush hour, that's the only way it really works when you've got 2 sets of pedestrians walking past each other with two sets of cyclists behind them wanting to eventually overtake.
Shared use paths are not roads, cyclists are not cars.
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