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Malicious or incompetent diversions at tram tracks - designed to injure?!

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  1. qwerty
    Member

    An attempt to cycle down the Mound at the weekend was prevented by its road closure. Ended up being diverted along market street instead with the rest of the traffic.

    Route shown here: https://ibb.co/fYyvQQ

    However, at the bit where traffic turned left onto Princes St (before the right turn onto South St David Street) the road has 2 lanes, the right of the two has tram tracks embedded in it. In order to block off progress along Princes Street, the road closure folk had decided to force people to merge from the left of those lanes into the right with a string of cones. Which is fine for cars, but if you're a cyclist hitting it for the first time, the whole setup is designed to *increase* the risk that you get caught in the tram tracks!

    I'm not sure if I'm doing a very good job of describing the closure setup I faced, but if you can imagine two lanes going straight, you're in the left as a cyclist, and you're forced to merge into the right lane with its tram tracks in order to take a sharp right up to South St David St.

    It's exactly the sort of setup that has been called into question in the death of the Edinburgh medical student cyclist in May, the lady who was injured on the tram tracks a few weeks ago when there was the bus collision, and is exactly what led to all the Haymarket accidents.

    Another cyclist ahead of me managed to swerve left between the cones in order to make a curved squiggle and turn into the right lane/up South St David's street at more like a 90 degree turn (much like the Haymarket cycle lane changes)... but I wasn't well enough prepared to slot into the "closed" lane.. and even if I had been, there was a car at my back right which I'd have ended up clashing with if I'd attempted to do something similar to improve the angle I crossed the track at.

    As it stands, I ended up having to weigh up just pitching to the left and stopping in the "closed" lane at the last minute (bailing, basically) or just hope for the best when crossing the track at almost a parallel angle. I did the latter, but it was only luck that meant my wheel didn't get caught.

    So.. a few days later to cool off about the matter.. and I'm still frustrated about the lack of care or thought for cyclists encountering the road diversion along this city centre part of Edinburgh - it really is a good example of either malicious road diversions or sheer incompetence, and similar things can be prevented in future.

    Who can I report concerns to? Is there some road closure diversion email address for the Council who are meant to see that these things are done safely for *all* traffic users?

    thanks.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. slowcoach
    Member

    There isn't anything in the general guidance on "Traffic Safety Measures and Signs for Road Works and Temporary Situations"(Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual), about the risks of tram rails. But it does say "O3.27.1 Special safety precautions must be taken when works are to be carried out near a tramway. Detailed advice must be obtained by the works supervisor from the relevant track or transport authority prior to starting work and should be given to those carrying out the works."

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. Luath
    Member

    That sounds shocking, particularly in light of recent incidents.

    You could report it through the council website:
    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20089/roads_and_pavements/1070/road_or_pavement_problem

    though the form isn't the best for anything unusual. You could also tweet @edinhelp they seem OK at passing on reports to relevant departments.

    Given the profile of the tram tracks in relation to cycling, you could also get in touch with local councillors.

    I'm assuming the Mound is now open again and the offending diversion has been removed? If not pictures photos would be great help in making the point about how dangerous it is.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. qwerty
    Member

    Hi, for clarity - yes the mound is definitely open now - this incident/diversion was in place at about 2pm on Sunday, July 16th, I've just checked on Strava for accuracy.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. qwerty
    Member

    Luath unfortunately i can't submit using the form you provided as it's not working (my browser (Chrome) won't allow me to select a map pinpoint location for some reason, and it's required to submit the form!). I've filled out the form but that bit is preventing me from submitting - how annoying.

    Trying an alternative browser (MS Edge) didn't help!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. ejstubbs
    Member

    Pinpoint location works in Chrome for me (Win7, not 10).

    Re: "Malicious or incompetent diversions..." I think Hanlon's Razor probably applies. I doubt anyone is deliberately trying to dump cyclists in front of trams.

    It does sound as if they'd have been better advised, if they'd blocked access to Princes Street westbound at the lights by the Scott Monument, to have closed the left lane immediately at the Waverley Bridge junction. Or even further east of it eg at the St Andrews Street junction - that way any merging required would have been prior to the tram tracks on straight road, rather than over tram tracks between junctions.

    (Off topic: does it strike anyone else as odd that Google Maps seems to show Waverley Bridge as an underpass?)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. jonty
    Member

    I think it's a quirk of the more detailed mapping that exists for Waverley - it looks normal when zoomed out a bit.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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