I am somewhat confused as to where you are trying to get to from Lothian Rd iwrats. Seems to be Queensferry St or somewhere just west of it. If so, I know of no problem with the "Rutland Square wriggle" followed by a right turn onto Shandwick Place and left onto Stafford St. Unless there is some further road closure I'm unaware of.
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Posted 7 years ago #
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I think that right turn on to Shandwick Place is illegal (pointlessly, imho, and also in the opinion of virtually every taxi that emerges into Shandwick Place from Canning Street.
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By jove, you're right, b-t-t.
Emerging from Atholl Crescent Ln and crossing to Coates Crescent may just about qualify as not ignoring a No Right Turn sign, but other than that our beloved council will be wanting you to dismount Iwrats.
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... altho Coates Crescent (opposite Canning Street) is a no entry ...
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I think that right turn on to Shandwick Place is illegal
Just so. Turn left and you're swept up onto Morrison Street.
I'm trying to get to Palmerston Place and points north-west.
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Without taking a big detour, I think jumping off at the foot of Lothian Road and pushing over to Queensferry Street is the only realistic option.
I suppose you could argue that the Lothian Road-Princes Street-Shandwick Place junction is a part of the core path network and you have a right to turn left on a bike there, or even cycle on the pavement. I don't think that is a great idea though - as it certainly looks illegal (possibly even is - depends on your interpretation of core paths law) and is probably pretty dangerous for you and pedestrians.
Mad to think this junction was lavishly rebuilt, with almost no thought as to how it would be used by the hordes of pedestrians and cyclists - who far outnumber the vehicles passing through the junction.
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Heading west, I go along Rutland Square, turn left on Shandwick Place and then at Manor Place stop and push over the pedestrian crossing.
That will get you to Palmerston Place and you can cycle on to Magdala Crescent to get a right turn on the A8, missing out the Haymarket Horlicks.Posted 7 years ago # -
Left down Shandwick Place right down Coates Crescent, left down Walker Street?
Oh, that's illegal too. What a maze.
OK OK - how about Dewar Place (by any method), Dewar Place Lane (if you want to avoid Morrison Street and two sets of traffic lights) then Torphichen Street?
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I still stand by my earlier claim that cycling through Atholl Crescent Ln and crossing straight over to Coates Crescent (the western, entry bit) is legal, if cobbly.
Alternatively, hard left out of Canning St and straight into Atholl Crescent affords the same option of crossing legally to Coates Crescent and thence the promised land of Walker St...
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(Sigh) I came up Dewar Place today on my way to Fountainbridge. Nasty little hill. And on my right lay the gentle slope of Morrison Street.. oh for an eastbound cycle lane there.
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I reckon Atholl Crescent straight over to Coates Crescent is probably technically illegal, but I think if you were caught and recounted the many combinations of routes tried here beforehand you might get let off on the basis of diminished responsibility due to mental exhaustion.
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Alternatively, hard left out of Canning St and straight into Atholl Crescent affords the same option of crossing legally to Coates Crescent and thence the promised land of Walker St...
You can cut across to Coates Cres, halfway along Atholl Cres. by taking the path. May have to walk across Shandwick on the crossing/tram stop, but the path should be legal, as it's not adjacent to any road i.e. it's the equivalent of cycling through a park
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I tend to follow the example set by our professional driving friends the Taxis.
A left out of Canning Street, pull into the gap behind the tram platform and perform a right hand turn out of here. Some might call this a U-Turn, but I maintain it's a left and a right.
This is another mess that the Tram brought, pre tram works the right hand turn from Canning Street was permitted.
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Mornington Crescent?
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I've asked the council if the Atholl Crescent-Coates Crescent wriggle is legal on a bicycle. What do you all think? Vote now!
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I would guess not, since the signage is "turn left" rather than "don't turn right". And a right turn from Shandwick Place to Coates Crescent isn't allowed, so arguing that it's a left then a right, rather than going straight on, won't work either.
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Mornington Crescent?
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I would suggest the council will undoubtedly purport that going straight(-ish) across from either Atholl Crescent or Atholl Crescent Lane to Coates Crescent is illegal, as the intention of all the NRT signs all the way down Shandwick Place is clearly to discourage anything crossing the tram lines and interfering with their tram.
The real question is what a court would decide (or perhaps more precisely, what a police officer would think a court will decide).
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Tried the Atholl-Coates Shimmy this morning. It didn't feel illegal and only involves one hundred metres of back-tracking.
It'll be interesting to see what the council say. I expect they'll say they don't know if it's legal or not.
Posted 7 years ago # -
so its thinning out a bit now then
back at least to the new norm of post-brexit-vote weak pound advanced touristry
i went to see DEREVO, as is usual
my only annual festival concession, but to be fair i've been known to travel to Dresden Hellerau to see them on home turf also
as you were
Posted 7 years ago # -
Yeah, town quite nice today
Posted 7 years ago # -
Very quiet round Easter Road and Abbeyhill today. A lot of festival AirBnB/student accommodation guests have departed for home, it would seem.
Posted 7 years ago # -
I like the festival, look for free rubbish or dear good stuff and this year I ended up with free good stuff.
However, this week and maybe next are almost my favourite time, after the festival but before the studes. The quiet after the storm.
The shanty town shacks at New street still pumping up the volume last night but maybe gone soon
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not just the west end. i made the mistake of riding down queen st this morning. horrific. and then St Andrew's square - the mound (I actually walked most of this). completely crazy.
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i made the mistake of riding down queen st
Oh Lord, don't do that.
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George street not bad for cycling along if heading to St. Andrews sq. from there to the mound though, not so good unless you turn back along George st after flipping the bird to the nasty guy on the statue and go back along George st and down Hanover. That is ok too,
Posted 7 years ago # -
yes, that's what I usually do, but then I have to walk through to Elder St. So thought I would try Queen St.
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Going east I would normally use George St and turn left onto North St David Street, and York Place. Sometimes I walk through to Elder St and join York Place there.
Southbound to the Mound from Hanover Street has never seemed that bad to me, though the tram rails aren't very pleasant.
The East End is horrible though, too. I really dislike George Street to South St David Street to Princes St to North Bridge, but I'd rather cycle up North Bridge than the Mound.
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Since I was going to Elder st, I don't really want to cross Queen St/York Place twice. so I end up either walking through Elder st or along Queen St.
I should have gone along Hanover to the Mound. I had planned to go up Bridges, but then changed my mind, but the Princes St junctions were all blocked by coaches.
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