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M2GS - Meadows to George Street

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  1. CycleAlex
    Member

    Last day to comment! Only takes a few minutes to email saying you support the project. Various nonsense from CA/NTBCC/LSE and others have been submitted already.

    Email TRO.Consultations@edinburgh.gov.uk referencing TRO/21/32 and RSO/21/08

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. bakky
    Member

    A reporter, Mr Paul Cackette CBE, LLB (Hons) Dip LP NP, has been appointed to carry out an examination and hold a Public Hearing with respect to the objections to the TRO. He will then report his findings and recommendations to City of Edinburgh Council, as the promoting authority in respect of the TRO. The Reporter will conduct the examination in accordance with the 1999 Regulations. This is not an examination into Redetermination Order RSO/21/08 nor objections to it.

    I have more bits in the letter I received on this if folks are interested.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  3. dessert rat
    Member

    CEC seem to have employed the same redaction technique in that .pdg as DOJ on the recent Ep files.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  4. pringlis
    Member

    I looked up Mr Paul Cackette CBE, LLB (Hons) Dip LP NP. Sounds like he's well placed for that role but I shudder to think what his day rates are like.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  5. bakky
    Member

    Dear Sir/Madame

    I am contacting you as you submitted a representation to the Meadows to George Street Traffic Regulation Order TRO/21/32 and/or Redetermination Order RSO/21/08.

    The current Traffic Regulation Order (TRO), which was due to be heard at a public hearing in June, is no longer being taken forward and a new revised order is being drafted. This is, in part, due to an error in the date to apply for an extension to the TRO, but also in relation to the need to start a new Re-determination Order (RSO) following moderate but essential design changes, which were included to respond to points raised during consultation and since the RSO was advertised. These are to:

    - address new heritage considerations on the Mound

    - accommodate a new tour bus stop on George IV Bridge

    - provide space for access controls on Forrest Road.

    A decision has therefore been taken to consider and report on both orders at the same time.

    Starting a new TRO also means we are now able to include some moderate design modifications which address some of the concerns raised during the TRO consultation, which if incorporated at this point, may potentially benefit the final delivery stages of the project. These relate to:

    - extending loading times on Bank Street

    - increasing the amount of disabled parking

    - access for residents of the streets within the project

    - access from Chambers Street to George IV Bridge

    - increasing the number of controlled zone 4 parking at Mound Place.

    If you submitted a response to the initial TRO

    Please be assured that your original submission of support, objection, query or comment will be carried forward to the new TRO process to be considered by councillors alongside the any new submissions. This approach has been used previously in similar circumstances. If you submitted a representation to the original TRO, you can also submit a new response to the new TRO, but you do not have to do so. However, It is not possible to amend your original response to the original TRO.

    If you submitted a response to the initial RSO

    Unfortunately, the RSO process, which is under the direct remit of Scottish Ministers, does not permit the carryover of previous representations. If you wish to respond to the new RSO then you will have to submit a new representation.

    We will contact you again, via the email address you have provided (or postal address if no email was provided) to tell you when the new advertisement will be published and how to submit a new representation should you wish to.

    The same statutory process including advertisement, consultation, reporting to Committee, including any requirements for public hearing, will be followed as they were for the previous orders.

    If you have any questions, please do contact the project team on meadowstogeorgestreet@edinburgh.gov.uk

    This does rather read like a big ol' watering down...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  6. Morningsider
    Member

    How times flies. This thread is eight years old and the consenting process has just been reset to day zero! Beginning to think we really should do this (a post from a mere two years ago):

    I'm thinking of entering this in the 2024 Fringe programme:

    "The Meadows to... An evolving performance art project about the nature of time, space and the futility of attempts to master the great God car - expressed through a series of immersive, yet imaginary cycle projects centred on Edinburgh's iconic Meadows park."

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. Arellcat
    Moderator

    (probably the wrong thread, but curiously also the right thread)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. pringlis
    Member

    If memory serves the reason the segregated cycle lane on Forest Road was removed was that it couldn't remain in place while this TRO was progressing and we were promised fast action on it? Must be almost 5 years now since it was removed.

    I recall the human bike lane there in 2019... and Civerinos winning an award for not serving people who parked in the lane.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-pizzeria-civerinos-slices-award-for-refusing-to-serve-bike-lane-parkers-3028262

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. gembo
    Member

    Very suave bollards IMHO

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. bakky
    Member

    @Arellcat yon meme hath ended me. Top work.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  11. bakky
    Member

    In response to your queries:

    - Re: project design stage. Essentially the project's design stage has not changed, we have just restarted the orders process (which includes a statutory consultation process). As part of this statutory process the updated designs will be shared and anyone can respond to them. Note that the design changes are only moderate with no significant change to the project's key design elements.

    - Re: timeline. We will advertise the dates of this statutory consultation in due course, including an update to all people who previously submitted a representation to the TRO or RSO processes.

    and:

    We don’t yet have a confirmed date for this [start of statutory consultation period], but we will be back in touch as soon as we can in due course to tell you when the new advertisement will be published and how to submit a new representation should you wish to as part of that process.

    Posted 4 weeks ago #

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