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Drivers have been warned to plan ahead due to a major water main upgrade project closing Saughton Road North to through traffic as part of 6 months of work.
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CHAOS,
Presume ped/cycle access will be maintained(?)
Where will the trafffic go?
Will the world end?
Should the road reopen?
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Work will start on Saughton Road North from the tram bridge to the junction with Broomhall Avenue.
Once completed, workmen will move on to Kirk Loan, across St John’s Road and into Clermiston Road.
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Lib Dem councillor Gillian Gloyer said residents were left in the dark on road diversions and the rerouted number 1 bus.
“It’s a big piece of work and of course the water mains is being replaced because there has been flooding.
“Councillors were informed but unfortunately local residents haven’t been informed about it. They were supposed to have got a maildrop.
“There are quite small streets with school routes so there doesn’t seem to have been much thought given to traffic around the roadworks.
“The number 1 bus goes down Saughton Road normally and will be diverted but we’re still trying to establish what the diversion will be.”
Seriously, how is this person a councillor?
Leaving aside her inability to construct sentences, the seems incapable of gathering simple information.
The article then goes on to say where the #1 will be diverted to. I guess, rather than "trying to establish what the diversion will be," the journalist just phoned Lothian Buses.
@gibbo: local residents *are* concerned about this and *haven't* had much notice about it. It was raised and discussed at the community council last week. Lots of older people in the area rely on that bus and diversion/bus stop arrangements haven't been clear until recently.
Maybe the article is a few days late as arrangements are now publicised.
local residents *are* concerned about this and *haven't* had much notice about it.
Not questioning that.
What I am pointing out is
(A) The councillor is blaming the council for the lack of information. I have no problem with the council being blamed - clearly they're at fault - but I do have an issue with councillors shrugging their shoulders over this.
(B) She talks about finding out about a bus diversion like a long-term data gathering process. Journo got the info from a phonecall.
What is it about politicians that cause them to lack both basic competence and the sense that, when you have a job, you do it?
I get your point, but I think the EEN article may be late or the quotes from the councillor from last week. They do have form for being slow. I understand at the CC meeting last week there was uncertainty about the bus diversion route. Maybe Lothian Buses had clarified it and had it available for the journo.
@stickman
There was a sense of "this sort of data takes a long time to get."
i.e. That the asking was a long and drawn out process, rather than something you just do.
But, to be fair, she doesn't seem to be particularly articulate. So maybe what she really meant was that the council asked Lothian Buses and LB hadn't yet decided on the new route?
(Though this would be so far from what she said, it would be a hell of an assumption that that's what she meant.)
“There are quite small streets with school routes..."
I'm confused. Is she saying that the diversions will impede parents driving their kids to school, or that the diverted traffic will create hazards for kiddies walking to school?
If the first then my sympathy meter would read pretty low. If the second then that would be a much more valid complaint.
Nice to see drivers this morning deciding that the road closures didn't apply to them and moving two rows of cones out of the way at the Broomhouse Drive end to get their cars through.
Yeah I seen a lady being helped by the workies to get clear of the closure, presumably finding herself there quite inocently. She then buzzed passed and near right hooked me getting to the road that loops back to where she had just been...
First we heard about this was a note from the school last week, the offical letter didn't arrive from Scottish Water till Sunday! If only they'd fixed it before the road was resurfaced in the spring or one of the two dozen times they've had that road dug up in the last ten years...
Broomhouse Road and tributaries have been pretty mental the last couple of days. I think I'm lucky at the moment as the end of my street is within the closed area so no good for a rat run, might change in the next stage.
I notice this morning that there are no longer two separate sets of cones, and there are now signs saying 'Local Access Only' with a gap in the remaining cones at the Broomhouse end. Given the speed a BMW came down Saughton Road and went through them towards Saughton Road North this morning, I foresee a tragic accident with a pedestrian or cyclist who crosses what appears (from their sightlines)to be a completely closed road, and a they meet a driver doing 40-50mph through an unseen gap on the 'wrong' side of the road.
This morning I'm sure I saw a car exit Saughton Mains Street northbound.
If I did, then there is "access only" from both sides!
The configuration at the Broomhouse end was changed again yesterday and the road is now open again with 'Local Access Only' signs, though it does funnel the traffic into a single lane.
Quite how that works when I've seen cars entering and exiting there, I don't know. Likely to result in a Mexican standoff between drivers who meet in the middle of the single lane and neither refuses to reverse all the way back out again to let the other through...
Meadow Place Road very busy this morning.
A surprising number of cars heading up Saughton Road North, I assume it was school run into Carrick Knowe.
Thank God the SNP had the sense to make McVey group leader rather than this know-nothing.
New layout from Monday
Urghh. They have decided to block Quiet Route 9's crossing of Suaghton Road North, for what looks like no good reason (except perhaps to stop rat running cars).
Angry tweet - you know what to do...
Health & safety!!!
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We appreciate that this route is used by both cyclists and members of the public. However health and safety is paramount. The road closure is in place to ensure the health and safety of both our teams on the site and members of the public. From these details we can advise... 1/2
...that the road closure will remain in place for all road users and we're unable to amend the current setup of the traffic management. ^Robbie 2/2
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Went through that way on my way home tonight. The barriers are across one side of each junction now but this means that you may find yourself heading straight towards a vehicle with little to no room available to bail out. Assuming you had time to react anyway... Before they moved the works up to this part I've seen vehicles fair rattling past the road closure signs just past where QR9 crosses Saughton Rd North.
I had a car behind me (somewhat closer than I'd have preferred) and there was another coming the other way, which did go through the open part of the junction but I was still a way off the junction at that point so there was no issue.
At 7.30am this morning there were cones across the exit sides of both Dovecot & Meadowplace Roads. Which as you say, you can negotiate round but isn't ideal. (The good people on Corstorphine FB page were a bit flummoxed by it but the general consensus was just to drive round the cones).
The picture on Twitter late morning had a Herras fencing diamond blocking the entire roadway of Dovecot Road. I assume to prevent motor vehicles getting past.
Sounds like it has changed back to more like this morning then.
Some supportive tweets from Drum Brae Community Council asking to see the risk assessment.
https://twitter.com/DrumBraeNews/status/929044230110105601
And from local councillor Frank Ross
Been through it today and a route through existed and was being used for by both car drivers and cyclists.
What I think is happening is they have 4 pieces of Heras fencing that they have made into a diamond. Today they have made them into a squarish diamond that only blocks the left/exit side of Dovecot & Meadowplace Roads.
However, Yesterday they used the 4 bits of fencing to make a flat diamond that blocked the whole roadway.
Let's see what they do on Monday. Hopefully somewhere between the 2, so that cars are blocked but not bikes.
I walked by yesterday, there were cones across one side suggesting it was closed to cars. On the way home the cones had been moved and the ncn was a rat run of speeding cars. Can't win.
Back blocking the whole road this morning :-(
"Our team have confirmed that at this time, the current traffic management setup will remain in place. During this work we've had issues with road users moving barriers and cones to access closed routes. This part of the road is closed to ensure the health and safety of our... 1/3
...team working and members of the public. We appreciate that this work does cross part of cycle route however, we're unable to make alterations to the setup during this phase of work. We would also note that all traffic management is coordinated with the local council.... 2/3
...^Robbie 3/3"
My latest tweet
Having got fed up with the standard line of for 'elf & safety', I cracked.
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Will someone from @scottish_water accompany me & my 6/8year old kids as we cycle down the A8 to get to school & then tell me your approach is for our safety?
I can provide a bike for them"
Got a response from them asking for my details to call me tomorrow.
We shall see...
@Hankchief. Let me know if you would like be to check the state the barriers on SRN. I will be in the area at lunchtime tmrw.
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