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"Efforts to cut car commuting at a standstill"

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  • Started 7 years ago by Murun Buchstansangur
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  1. Murun Buchstansangur
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    "Scots commuters remain stubbornly wedded to their cars with no reduction in driving to work compared to a decade ago, new Scottish Government figures show.

    The lack of progress comes despite all ministers’ efforts to encourage more people to travel by public transport, walk or cycle.

    In fact, the proportion of people walking to work has fallen by two points to 12 per cent since 2006. The popularity of taking the bus was also down by two points, to 10 per cent."

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/efforts-to-cut-car-commuting-at-a-standstill-1-4570196

    Shockeroonie under the tender embrace of the Scottish Motorists' Party. The cynical might speculate that the active travel funding announcement a couple of weeks ago was done in full knowledge of these forthcoming figures...

    However "Cycling has also increased in popularity - up from 2 per cent to 3 per cent of commuting."

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Roibeard
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    They neglect to provide a link - anyone idea of the source of this?

    I've been hassling the Minister for (Motorised) Transport for months with the basic question:

    "Does the Minister for Transport agree or recognise that the policies he has inherited, whilst aiming to promote a vision for active travel, actually encouraged a switch to driving (even among those who were car passengers)?"

    Needless to say, he avoided the question for many months and then finally responded "I have to disagree that Transport Scotland's policies promote driving and encouraged a switch to the private car." (Note not the Government's policies!)

    Of course, their A9 dualling also is also not a result of Government policies and doesn't encourage a switch to road freight.

    It would be interesting if Transport Scotland have released figures showing this trend continuing...

    Robert

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Min
    Member

    The lack of progress comes despite all ministers’ efforts to encourage more people to travel by public transport, walk or cycle.
    And what efforts would those be? Telling people to walk and cycle while spending billions on motorways and spare bridges? That's where your problem is.

    *bangs head against wall*

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Detailed report

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Roibeard
    Member

    Ah, ta, I'd managed to find it.

    Yet again Table 10 shows that, if you've changed travel modes, you've probably become a driver...

    Probability of becoming a driver this year:

    Walking = 5.2%
    Passenger = 5.4%
    Bicycle = 7.7%
    Bus = 4.9% (although 5.0% have become pedestrians)
    Rail = 8.9%
    Other = 6.2%

    In every case (apart from former bus passengers), the mode you will most likely switch to is driving. Yet again, this is even if you were a passenger!

    Robert

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Driving a car is the high status travel mode. No one aspires to take the bus, few people aspire to get dirty and sweaty.

    I wish I could find the picture of Mr Brown in a high visibility suit on the 'cycle path' beside the A9 accompanied by two small helmeted children on princess bikes. Perhaps yomping over the Falklands scunnered him on active travel for life?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    Iwrats- This one?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    Alas, the 'investment pipeline' of capital projects set back in the days when enthusiastic motorist Alex Neil was Infrastructure Minister has remained largely unchanged. It's motorways, dual carriageways and bypasses ad nauseam. Oh there were a few bits of rail infrastructure in there, but most of that was Borders Rail and EGIP. I don't recall much else in the works.

    Unless this strategic investment pipeline is radically changed then as Chris Rea crooned we're on the Road To Hell...

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  9. I were right about that saddle
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    @HankChief

    Ha! Thanks. I invented the princess bikes then? (My mind also added cross-hairs to the picture but that's another story.)

    The image still makes me angry and I can't quite figure out precisely why.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    "In every case (apart from former bus passengers), the mode you will most likely switch to is driving."

    Same story as last year. Can't find the thread, but we were discussing this exact issue a year ago I think...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. crowriver
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    Anyway, I don't know why anyone is at all surprised by this. Here's an extract from the Spokes newsletter from September 2009 (my bold):

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    The SNP Government has ignored the Scottish Parliament's Transport, Environment and Climate Change Committee recommendation to invest more in active travel, cycling and walking in the 2009/10 budget, as also in our Spokes budget submission.*

    After 3 months of evidence-taking and scrutiny the only recommendation on the draft budget's spending plans by any Parliamentary Committee was higher active travel investment - and it would have cost a mere £20m to double existing cycle investment. Yet in 3 weeks of January politicking and horse-trading, and without detailed scrutiny, the government made other changes totalling over £100m, to gain the votes of other parties.

    Why the months of intelligent and serious debate by well-paid MSPs and civil servants, days of preparation by many outside experts, if the government can dismiss Committee outcomes without any real consideration? The TICC recommendation was neither accepted nor rejected by the government – it was just ignored! Only when committee member Des McNulty MSP, in a full Parliamentary debate, reminded Cabinet Secretary John Swinney of the Spokes evidence and the TICC recommendation did Mr Swinney promise to 'consider' it – a consideration which appears not to have taken long!

    So total cycle investment stays frozen around £20m, under 1% of transport spending, while the draft budget's £134m trunk-road increase grows to over £150m, with 3 more road projects thanks to 'accelerated capital spend.' Thus money is there – it's just a question of priorities.

    The government still acts as if cycling is some kind of hobby, not a serious form of transport with huge potential in public health, energy security, and CO2 reduction, let alone in local accessibility and reduced congestion.

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    You see the pattern here?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The government still acts as if cycling is some kind of hobby, not a serious form of transport

    Yup, and it's up to us to persuade them otherwise. They're not going to suddenly start championing something most people think is weird.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. gibbo
    Member

    The lack of progress comes despite all ministers’ efforts to encourage more people to travel by public transport, walk or cycle.

    The "efforts to encourage more people to cycle" presumably consisted of them going, "Please cycle."

    There certainly weren't any efforts to reward cycling, discourage driving, make cycling safer... or any of the other things everyone knows are necessary.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. gibbo
    Member

    @crowdriver

    The government still acts as if cycling is some kind of hobby, not a serious form of transport

    You're bang on the money. Just look at what happened when they closed the Burnshot overpass.

    No thought whatsoever about how commuters would get into Edinburgh - until people on here kicked up a stink.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. gibbo
    Member

    The lack of progress comes despite all ministers’ efforts to encourage more people to travel by public transport, walk or cycle.

    "What more encouragement do you people need? We built you a brand new bridge across the Forth."

    "We're not allowed on it."

    "Oh, yeah, keep the hell of our nice new bridge, you car-less losers."

    Posted 7 years ago #

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