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Is this a new kind of New town?

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  1. HankChief
    Member

    Objections need to be lodged by end of Wednesday (today if you are reading this in the morning)

    Comments on the lack of connections to existing cycle routes would be appreciated and won't take long.

    https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=OWOGR5EWGCP00

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    “Is this a new kind of New town?”

    No, probably just an acceptance by the owners and council that the vacant plots at South Gyle and Edinburgh Park are never going to realistically be filled by offices and factories, so why not re-zone as housing and fill in the gaps. People need houses after all, even if they don't need offices or factories to work in.

    The old Scottish & Newcastle distribution site on S. Gyle Broadway which was vacant for about 10 years now has a big housing scheme of glittering white-rendered flats on it (biggest surprise being they have pitched roofs), conveniently separated from all shops / schools / amenities by a 40mph dual carriageway and surrounded on all other sides by offices and warehouses that are dead to the world by evening and weekend.

    A “civic square”, 150-seat conference and events facility, bar-restaurant, leisure and medical centre, micro-brewery and specially commissioned works of art would also be created.5

    Who needs a shop or a school or a park?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. acsimpson
    Member

    Did you lodge that as a response to the planning application?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Parabola has bought up the House of Fraser site months after unveiling plans for a new £500 million “urban quarter” on the outskirts of Edinburgh.

    The capital’s biggest development for well over a decade is earmarked for a swathe of land on both sides of the tram line near the Gyle Shopping Centre. About 43 acres of undeveloped land to the south of the Edinburgh Park business park would be transformed under the firm’s plans.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/property-developers-buy-iconic-house-of-fraser-princes-street-store-1-4663710

    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. Blueth
    Member

    I do hope the "New Town" goes ahead - we desperately need a second microbrewery in that area to alleviate the congestion at the existing one.

    Has anybody ever actually seen any customers in there?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  6. HankChief
    Member

    Back on the subject of the Parabola Development in Edinburgh Park.

    Thanks to a Cllr Hutchison, he & I (with my work's BUG hat on) met with Parabola's consultants.

    They listened and acknowledged our concerns about the importance of a high quality East-West Route through their site to link up the Garden District with Edinburgh Park Station, the tramside path and South Gyle Crescent.

    We'll see what comes from it but it did seem a positive meeting :-)

    Posted 2 months ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    FYI - they have readvertised the planning application as they have reduced the boulevard from 2 lanes to 1 each way.

    So another opportunity to make comments about the poor junctions design for active travellers either end of the East-West Boulevard...

    Portal Reference 17/04341/AMC

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    Your chance to comment on this plabning application closes tomorrow (15th).

    Do have your say...

    & if you mentioned the poor junctions at either end of the boulevard you will have my gratitude.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. acsimpson
    Member

    Oh dear, I should have read this first. I did say that a 20mph road shouldn't be a dual carriageway though. What do they expect the 2nd lane to be required for!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. Frenchy
    Member

  11. gembo
    Member

    Are the wee stone pigeons coming back too? Elegant trip hazard/fancy bollard for segregated cycle path, discuss. Also where are the Gormleys this weather?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The Gormleys are mounted on shear bolts so that they flip down if tree trunks and stuff hit them. It now costs too much to put them back up each time so they are sunk until austerity ends or the Water of Leith runs dry.

    Vulcan's alright I suppose.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. gembo
    Member

    WoL quite low just now. Guerilla Gormley erection anyone?

    Yesterday @Iwrats liking Fox (turned out fortunately to be Colin not Liam) now I detect a softening on Eduardo? Vulcan, is that the William Blake copy? I click d on link but Hootsmon wanted mr to do a survey. Will google. Ok the one inside dean gallery made of sheet metal is I think better. And what we need is a big sculpture to detract our attention from the utter pointlessness of building office space at Edinburgh park? If Edinburgh lacks high quality office space then what rating do all the offices have? Actually one of my fellow commuters was telling me you can rent good offices now in Edinburgh if you avoid the modern glass and metal ones bring flung up under the noses of the Cockburn association or hidden behind large Paolozzi bronzes.

    Will do FOI for the pigeons? ( answer, they have been baked in a stone pie)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Guerilla Gormley erection anyone?

    Thought about that. If the castings are solid they weigh about 700kg. Probably hollow, maybe 200kg? Non-trivial to lift them and exploratory dive needed to measure bolt size.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. gembo
    Member

    Big rope, lot of people in a row in water stretching up the river bed, yo ho heave ho, or if you like les Mis the musical, look down, look down, don't look him in the eye

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Sounds good. Who's doing the exploratory dive?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Spurted of 2015 has them all? Out of the river except the one in the ground and the one on the dock?

    Googling does produce some great photos of them in situ standing right out of trickle of water and then more submerged as the water rises.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    From link above -

    About 1,800 homes and more than 7,000 jobs are set to be created at the development, earmarked for land on both sides of the tram line near the Gyle Shopping Centre.

    About 43 acres of undeveloped land to the south of the Edinburgh Park business park would be transformed under the plans by Parabola. It is hoped planning permission will be secured over the summer to allow work on the first phase to begin in the autumn.

    Posted 1 month ago #

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