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Is this a new kind of New town?

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  1. CycleAlex
    Member

    Exhibition boards from their recent drop-in: https://cycleparking.net/cycle-routes/edinburgh-park.pdf, provided by @HankChief

    Variety of renders throughout but there's a overview on page 5/6. Mercifully it won't be dominated by ground level parking like the existing developments at Edinburgh Park.

    No massive glass office blocks unlike others, *cough* Haymarket.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. CycleAlex
    Member

    Looks like it'll be a pleasantly high density development, 1800 homes proposed. Quite a bit of green space and a large public square too.

    Office phase is under construction, completion due 2021. Planning application for the residential phase is still to come.

    The site allows for easy integration into the existing and proposed pedestrian and cyclist networks using segregated facilities.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. HankChief
    Member

    Thanks Alex.

    I had a few meeting with the developer and they do seem to be keen not to have a car dominated development and have listen to suggestions on how to connect up the cycle routes.

    I reckon it is a decent attempt, but happy to hear the CCE critique.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. neddie
    Member

    If Edinburgh Park were being designed from scratch, you would put the offices next to the bypass and the houses further "inland", instead of the other way round.

    But that would involve joined-up thinking from the outset.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. CycleAlex
    Member

    They've submitted an EIA which has quite a detailed drawing at the end. Notably, it shows the bidirectional cycle lane + toucan @Hankchief mentioned. It seems to have slightly clearer priority over side-roads but they don't appear to be raised - although that could just be something that isn't shown in this drawing. Access controls appear to be maintained rather than removed.

    There's also a new on-road, advisory cycle lane on Lochside Court which I assume is to link the segregated section to QR8/EdPkSt.

    20/01539/SCR - http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/files/FE6CBEB8AEEF9CE833F546DA40A79F95/pdf/20_01539_SCR-EIA_SCREENING_REPORT-4569607.pdf

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. CycleAlex
    Member

    A rather enormous planning application has been submitted for the residential element of the site (nearly 200 drawings and 700 odd pages worth of Design and Access statements): 20/02068/FUL

    Some moderately interesting lines from a cursory look at the nearly 550 pages worth of Transport Statement:

    vehicular access across the tram line will be restricted to emergency vehicles and buses only, enforced by a Traffic Regulation Order (TRO). This will effectively operate as a bus gate;

    The footways throughout the Proposed Development will vary in width from 2m to 5m, with raised tables or dropped kerbs at all the crossing points. They will be located along the building lines to encourage an active frontage through the Proposed Development, in contrast to the existing business park estate, which can be seen as sterile and empty.

    ...a proposed Tiger crossing over Lochside Avenue

    Two segregated cycle routes will be provided within the Proposed Development. A west-east route will run parallel to Cross Street, with a south-north route running adjacent to Tram Street East, connecting to Apartment Street which will be a designated Quiet Street.

    Cycle Hire docking stations will also be provided throughout the Proposed Development, which will be operated by a third party (currently Just Eat Cycles)

    To the south, the existing barrier control system on Station Park and Lochside Avenue will be retained.

    • Cycle Parking (Commercial): 340 spaces;
    • Cycle Parking (Hotel): 23 spaces;
    • Cycle Parking (Residential): 3,635 spaces;
    • Cycle Parking (on-street visitor): 48 spaces;

    • Car Parking (Commercial): 109 spaces (including 7 disabled);
    • Car Parking (Hotel): 23 spaces (including 2 disabled);
    • Car Parking (Residential): 557 spaces (including 49 disabled);
    • Car Parking (on-street visitor): 70 spaces (including 9 disabled);

    Overall, the Proposed Development will deliver 1,774 (1,180+594) fewer car parking spaces than could be permitted under CEC’s current parking guidelines.

    Some on-street parking will be available throughout the Proposed Development, although none will be permitted on Cross Street. On-street parking will be for short term only and will be enforced by a TRO, policed by CEC Wardens. Long term onstreet parking will not be permitted.

    The introduction of a cargo bike loan scheme to residential tenants and employees could be explored.

    The Detailed Planning Application for a Residential-led mixed-use Masterplan at Edinburgh Park marks a sea change in how the Park has evolved since its inception in the 1990s. The proposals concentrate on creating places for people, as opposed promoting continued, unchecked car use.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. chdot
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