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Is this actually still a ‘bike lane’?

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. unhurt
    Member

    A thorny philosophical question?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. steveo
    Member

    Meets all the requirements, narrow, dangerous, pointless, ends where its actually needed and adds to the council's key metrics on being a model cycling city.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "A thorny philosophical question?"

    Hope no thorns are involved.

    There have plenty of mentions on CCE of the section closer to the King's Theatre and the parking spaces on top.

    I cannot remember when this 'lane' went in, I assume it would have had a dotted white line delineator.

    Without that, is it a "cycle lane"?

    Is it included in CEC's list of cycle lane mileage?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. wingpig
    Member

    According to the pseudoSpokes council On Foot, By Bike map (http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/6463/explore_city_centre_area_and_north_edinburgh), only the bit on the last straight bit up to the junction:

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    @steveo, once you get to the Kings theatre end you also have lots of cars parked in it? So it must be a bike lane?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    @ wingpig

    Useful find.

    Actually that’s what’s on the ground -

    So, CEC thinks it’s a “bike lane”.

    Shame there’s no mechanism for maintaining it (can’t be about money with the 10% budget).

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. wingpig
    Member

    Also noted in the Atlas (http://edinburghcouncilmaps.info/atlas/cecatlas.html), so they should definitely realise it's there:

    http://edinburghcouncilmaps.info/atlas/cecatlas.html by wingpig, on Flickr

    http://edinburghcouncilmaps.info/atlas/cecatlas.html

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    once you get to the Kings theatre end you also have lots of cars parked in it? So it must be a bike lane?

    I knew there was a standard attribute I'd forgotten, its even in the picture on the other side of road.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

  11. gibbo
    Member

    Meets all the requirements, narrow, dangerous, pointless, ends where its actually needed...

    ..., no parking restrictions...

    I see the cyclist in pics 4 and 5 has the good sense to want no part of it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Klaxon
    Member

    One could argue that council recognised and is resolving the problems of surface treatment lanes by converting them all to red-chip lanes as and when the road is resurfaced.

    I'm not won over by that argument as the limited visual impact of red chips disappears entirely as soon as it gets dark or wet.

    And it's all moot as generally anywhere these lanes existed they were just parking anyway.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. LaidBack
    Member

    The lane is so bumpy that I go out into road when I can. As most bike traffic is heading for Valleyfield St, potholes and parked cars get me towards middle - not good though and drivers will contest you as everyone heads towards the red lights at King's Theatre junction.
    The grand plan is to bring through from canal onto Tarvit St by a new back lane (?)
    This 'link' well overdue.
    Of course Gilmore Place should be resurfaced too.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. mgj
    Member

    I think the sun turns into a dead star sometime before most Edinburgh roads are due to get resurfaced, for the benefit of cyclists or not.

    What does Edinburgh spend its money on?

    (Rather than congestion charges, should the Council not ban HGVs from the city, with deliveries via electric LGVs.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. jdanielp
    Member

    @mgj isn't it "The rocks will melt with the sun before the Council allows repairs to be imposed on Edinburgh's roads."? ;)

    Although if that molten rock was carefully channeled and then allowed to cool then it might help make a remarkable improvement.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. unhurt
    Member

    Urban geoengineering is a very nice idea!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @unhurt

    Spontaneous geological formation of cycle infrastructure not unknown. See the parallel roads in Glen Roy or North West Path Network as I call them.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. unhurt
    Member

    Nice direct routes to the top there. Suitable for a Dutch style city bike?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Suitable for a Dutch style city bike?

    Are you mistaking the erosion gullies for the natural bike paths? Easily done for an Edinburgh resident.

    [Thread back on track BOOM.]

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. unhurt
    Member

    No. Yes. Maybe. No coffee yet, I think it's affecting my visual comprehension...

    Posted 6 years ago #

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