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  1. chdot
    Admin

    After the snow and ice there will probably be a bit of flooding.

    There will also be a lot of potholes. Noticed a few today. Freeze/thaw (repeat) will produce results.

    This one is at the Bridges/Royal Mile junction.


    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. wingpig
    Member

    There's a fresh-looking crater across half of the westbound side of the B6415 Edinburgh/Musselburgh Road just before the junction with Milton Road East. It's sort of balanced by the large pile of snow extending from the edge of the pavement across the on-road cycle path just along from Newhailes Road.

    Less gigantic but plenty disruptive is the one on Duddingston Rd West just north of the Innocent.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    There's some absolutely stonking sinkholes appeared on Clerk St / South Bridge. I'm going to venture out with the camera tomorrow to take some shots - you could fall down some of these and need a ladder to climb out.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    A70 riddled with huge potholes - both deep and wide - lookout

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Developing nicely -

    Last week

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    "Pothole costs soar as roads crumble in ice"

    "Edinburgh City Council alone is expected to have to spend a further £2m over the coming weeks filling in some 10,000 potholes, nearly three times the amount of work in a mild winter."

    http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/Pothole-costs-soar-as-roads.6674618.jp

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Don't forget to tell Clarence where they are -

    "
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    "

    Online forms: Report a problem with a road, pavement or drain

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    £200 per pot hole - seems steep

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "£200 per pot hole - seems steep"

    This is Edinburgh.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. Arellcat
    Moderator

    There was an enormous pothole somewhere near Papilio on Bruntsfield Place yesterday; I passed it this evening and fortunately it was shrouded in roadworks barriers.

    There are some others, big or deep enough to swallow a 16" front wheel, along Home St/Leven St -- I think. I'm not sure, it was dark, and while I had my camera with me, it was also raining. If I finish work at a reasonable time I might go pothole hunting again.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Edinburgh City Council alone is expected to have to spend a further £2m over the coming weeks filling in some 10,000 potholes, nearly three times the amount of work in a mild winter

    Yes, well, these things happen if you leave them unfilled or badly patched up with soft tarmac since last winter, hoping they'll fill themselves in or maybe just get bored and go away...

    Some of the bus stop rear-wheel excavations were getting quite amusing with large piles of stones, tar and road hardcore (whatever the technical term is) placed in rather artistic patterns across the pavement and bus passengers' feet

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Went to EBC today (to try on my prize, it was a good fit). Went in via Colinton/Craiglockhart. Road surface v bad. Came back A70 [of course I know where most potholes are on that road, but did seem better]. Had great chat with granny in Currie Co-op. She felt leaving the potholes unfilled would slow down the cars, I said yes but what about cyclists? She said are you on your bike [I was wearing helmet, had pannier over shoulder and Tunnocks Tea Cake Jersey]. I said yes, on a bike we like a nice flat surface. She said, yes they should make the cyclepaths smooth and leave the roads bumpy. I then said, good idea, we should pave over the water of leith path. I could see she was about to have an embolism so I said - I am joking. We laffed. SHe said - you nearly got me there.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "
    I then said, good idea, we should pave over the water of leith path.
    "

    I'm sure you weren't joking.

    There are ways of improving the surface that should be 'acceptable' to most locals/walkers - without resorting to the 'dreaded tarmac' - but they require maintenance...

    I would be (slightly) surprised if there was much resistance to the Slateford - Colinton section being tarmaced as this the worst for leaf drop/bogginess.

    But we'll never know as there's 'no money'.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Two more potholes spotted on Bruntsfield Place westbound this evening. Right in the firing line of bus wheels, which won't do the tarmac much good.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    From CTC

    "

    Potholes mean prizes

    With the snow and ice mostly gone for now, potholes are back with a vengeance. A prize will be awarded at CTC's AGM in May for the best reporter of potholes during January, February and March 2011 using CTC's FillThatHole website and iPhone app. CTC hopes the prize will attract new users to the campaign, which helps to make the roads more cycle-friendly. In a new feature for 2011, users will also be able to rate how well their local authority responds to pothole reports by awarding them up to five stars. The ratings data will allow CTC to see which authorities are responding well to your pothole reports and which aren't. CTC Members will hear more about the 'RateThatFix' facility during the new year.

    "

    Posted 13 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    @chdot - they did try a whin stone experiment around wet bits in currie but that all washed away. I would like it like the canal path but I think the WoL pAth gets more abuse from horses hooves etc.

    Quite a few big potholes on the A70 west of Balerno (but on the Eastbound carriageway) always bad. One of the farm roads I run on which has been plagued by a little stream has actually turned into a river. Shallow and at points a layer of ice on top so will be interesting to see how that ends up.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "Plans to tackle Edinburgh's potholes and bin problems left by snow"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/edinburgh/2011/jan/10/edinburgh-potholes-roads-bins-snow-damage

    Posted 13 years ago #
  18. cb
    Member

    Interesting to read that the council can only fix a pothole whilst the quarries are open. The quarries close for the "festive period" which apparantly lasts until today in quarry-land.

    What do they do if they need to *really* fix a pothole during this time? Put a big metal plate over it (as, I think Kaputnik reported on)?

    Also in that article it confirms that street cleaning staff were redeployed to snow/ice clearing duties which is presumably why lots of public bins are now overflowing.

    I got caught out this year with the Christmas tree recycling. It was *after* I had chopped it up and put it in the brown bin (like the last few years) that I read on the council website that brown bins were *still* being used for general waste collection. Pah.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Put a big metal plate over it (as, I think Kaputnik reported on)?

    Yeah I had a moan about it in the Diggers. Enormous steel plate approaching an inch thick badly cemented onto the road in the buslane at Stenhouse Drive. Been there for about 3 or 4 months, I presume it's categorised as "repaired" now.

    I got caught out this year with the Christmas tree recycling.

    Yes, silly you. Don't you know the approved disposal method is to drag it out onto the street on December 26th and leave it within 50m of any public waste receptical?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  20. ruggtomcat
    Member

    mahoosive pit-hole on Beccluach Street heading into town just before the Dagda. Its right where the road narrows and anything trying to overtake you at this point will force you right into it, easily deep enough to bite your rims and up hill so jumping it is hard. Watch out!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  21. alibali
    Member

    Probably a good idea to avoid the road from the Hermiston P&R to the HW Uni roundabout.

    Several deep holes on both sides and one big enough to send you over the bars.

    Swerving cars add to the thrill....

    Posted 13 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    I have to go to Victoria Quay from Balerno tomorrow, anyone know if the Trinity path has been cleared? Probaly just go on the road and avoid the potholes if poss.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  23. Claggy Cog
    Member

    Not only potholes are the hazard to be looking out for... due to gritting the roads are covered in all sorts of kack and sharp spikey things causing punctures, which, of course, is not helped by the fact that you cannot actually see anything as it gets dark so early. Presently out in the country there is a lot of hedge cutting/trimming going on due to the early onset of winter, of blackthorn, buckthorn and hawthorn...all to catch the cyclist unawares and cause punctures.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    tsk! parked the wagon in the cycle lane. How inconsiderate!

    sorry. Couldn't resist. I'm seriously glad they're out and about filling them in, I'd rather bounce over some temporary tarmac any day than crunch into some of the chasms that have opened up.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    What makes you think it's a temporary repair?

    Oh, right…

    Posted 13 years ago #
  27. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I dunno, cyclists sixth sense? I'll purposely ride over it on the way home tomorrow and report back.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  28. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Well I road around a lot of these "repairs" today between Haymarket and Roseburn. Have to say the quality of the job is exactly what you'd expect from a wheelbarrow of soft tarmac tamped down with a garden rake. There's no sealing around the edges and some of them are already disintegrating where the busses are rumbling over them, scattering tarry gravel across the carriageway. I guess it's still better than sinking into a pothole, and this way they're a bit more visible as they stand so proud of the road. I'd still recommend tacking a course avoiding them, however wibbly it may be.

    In other pothole news;

    Pothole on M74 motorway damages cars

    Posted 13 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "Pothole on M74 motorway damages cars"

    Fixed in an hour and a half though!!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  30. wingpig
    Member

    "Local authorities have already been hit by claims from drivers whose vehicles had been damaged by uneven streets"
    and
    "AA Insurance said the average claim for pothole damage to cars was just over £1,300, but warned that claims could be as high as £14,000."

    Didn't know you could do that. Have any cycle-specific-insurance-protected people on here ever tried claiming for pothole damage?

    Posted 13 years ago #

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