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Installing cycle parking - advice please

(10 posts)

  1. jules878
    Member

    I saw a diagramme somewhere on this site recently (in last few months) with advice on installing cycle parking - eg height of racks, distance apart, securing, etc.

    I think someone had been commenting on some which were poorly installed. (Too high, and subsequently changed).

    I've tried searching for this diagramme/advice but unable to locate. Please can someone help?!

    I'm specifically seeking advice on how a "Sheffield toast rack" should be fitted & secured.

    If the toast rack is bolted down onto a newly laid concrete mono block will the racks be sufficiently secure and at the correct height?

    Posted 1 week ago #
  2. Klaxon
    Member

    Suspect you’re thinking of me

    A toast rack is a pre-welded unit of 2 or more racks at a fixed height that you generally just bolt into hard standing. You don’t get to choose height or rack spacing. They are good value for gardens/home.

    The council’s standard is to install ‘Sheffield Extra’ stands (the ‘extra’ is the mid level crossbar) https://www.broxap.com/sheffield-extra-cycle-stand.html

    The installation drawing shows the correct depth to which they should be sunk and the 3 permitted configurations


    They cost more than an equivalent toast rack and require a hefty core cutting drill to install. Compared to a toast rack they are not really economical to pursue for private purposes, but the standard drawing should be followed if you are speccing workplace employee or visitor bike parking. Toast racks aren’t big enough to give bike stability in a public place or widely spaced enough to allow manouverability in and out when all the spaces are full.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  3. Klaxon
    Member

    The mid crossbar of the ‘extra’ stands makes it much easier to lock bikes without top tubes, children’s bikes, and non-standard bikes, again maybe not important at home but key to accessibility in public.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  4. jules878
    Member

    Thanks both. And @Klaxon - that was the diagramme I was thinking of!

    After 18 months of campaigning by cyclists at Melville Bridge Club on Pinkhill we are getting some racks to place 6 old wheel benders (3 of which are non functioning).

    (I've not been involved in commissioning the work, but as one of the chief campaigners my thoughts been sought from time to time! Might be too late to influence this final stage tho.)

    The car park has been widened to allow more space for 2 disabled parking spaces, and to provide a better location for new cycle racks (we won't have to squeeze between a car and overgrown wet bush any more!)

    A toast rack with five Sheffield racks has been ordered, and is arriving any day.

    All this is progress! But the car park changes and cementing work has already been done, and the builders will be asked to bolt the toast rack into the cement "monblock".

    I wondered if this was best way of installing, or whether better cementing them in. (Might be too late for the latter.)

    It is on private property though rather than public space. Bikes may very occasionally be left overnight, but generally the building is in use while bikes are parked outside.

    Racks will be more secure and friendlier than the old wheel benders.

    Given the expense the club has gone to in order to install new racks I'd like to ensure they are properly installed, so it is a real win-win for the club and all its members who cycle!

    Posted 1 week ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    “The mid crossbar of the ‘extra’ stands makes it much easier to lock bikes without top tubes, children’s bikes”

    I think the idea came from Sciennes Primary which was one of the first schools in Edinburgh to get racks supplied by the council.

    Small bikes just slipped down the end poles and fell over.

    With the extra bar they became known as Edinburgh racks, though that doesn’t seem to have stuck!

    Posted 1 week ago #
  6. Klaxon
    Member

    While this is not a toast rack, it suffers from most of the same problems toast racks in busy areas do.

    1) The row is mounted too close to the wall, so bikes significantly overhang the back
    2) The rack body is not long enough to properly support the full length of the bike
    3) The main tube is too low to properly support the bike and difficult to lock to (look where the d-lock is)
    4) The racks are a bit too close together meaning it's easy to knock someone else's bike when you are locking up or going away

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. jules878
    Member

  8. Klaxon
    Member

    Much smarter painted than in bare galv

    Good job whoever ordered them

    Posted 3 days ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    I love the fact it is inside ;-)

    Posted 3 days ago #
  10. jules878
    Member

    Haha yes. Presume we didn't want anyone to half inch it before bolted down.

    Now installed! But outside :(

    It's taken 18 months of campaigning (or do I mean moaning, and getting fellow cyclists to do the same), so pleased to have got to this point. Some lights to be installed so we can find keys in the dark.

    Next stage is to find some "shed lovers" to build us a wee shelter!

    Posted 3 days ago #

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