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Public Health Minister Aileen Campbell said the rise in walking is being “championed” by the Scottish Government through its ambition to make Scotland the “world’s first Daily Mile nation”.
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"walking is being “championed” by the Scottish Government" (with thread drift)
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Posted 6 years ago #
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The way the Scotsman reports stats is hurting my brain.
"About 67 per cent of adults surveyed, the equivalent of about 2.7 million people, said they walked for about half an hour."
Buried 3 paragraphs above that text is 'in the last 4 weeks'.
Thats not really something to be celebrating is it?
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IMHO - the sooner Governments stop trying to massage "activity" stats from walking, cycling or anything else to score political points and get serious over the health problems linked to low exercise that every generation is facing, the sooner we will see the strain on the NHS reduce both in terms of budgets and people needing care....
rant of the day over for me.Posted 6 years ago # -
The Scotsman's content is, alas, mostly written by either fulminating retired colonel types or harassed twenty year old interns.
Miles Briggs' riposte is a thing of beauty though. I'm keen for him to be in charge of my health care.
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67 per cent of the 10000 adults surveyed reported they walked for about? Half an hour (I am guessing per day but the article omits this info. - think the press release was just jumbled up and then put back down in random order?). 79 per cent also report taking some form of physical activity (up from 72 per cent in previous survey).
Good News.
The minister then links to the Daily Mile. 15 mins every day. Still good but getting less.
Obviously this forum is hardly typical of the rest of Scotland and you have to start somewhere. Also I think the minister is trying to encourage the 33per cent who report they do not walk or the 21 per cent who report they take no physical exercise ( older more female according to the survey)
So in seeking to be positive, how can this most modestly priced receptacle be built upon?
Driving somewhere to take a walk, hmm,. Or Driving to the gym? Take out gym memberships January, never use it beyond Feb?
In Japan you see all the old folk doing their tai chi classes every morning, or you see all the pupils doing 30 mins exercise BEFORE lessons (not as a lesson like The Daily Mile).
How can more people build exercicse into their day rather than as something they go somewhere to do? Obviously by getting out of their cars and cycling. If they are older cycling the electric bicycles? If raining? Walking up and down the tenement stairs 100 times? Or cleaning the tenement stairs? Walking to the place they want to go for a walk? ( easier out in the burbs). any other suggestions from the Borg Mind?
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Gathering and chopping firewood.
Generating their own electricity by bicycle powered TVs.
Chasing the neighbour's chickens back into the coup.
Foraging for mushrooms, blackberries and other eatables.
Chasing down and skinning your own wild rabbitPosted 6 years ago # -
@gembo
As part of my application to be Caledonian Dictator Benign I proposed that
a) mechanical diggers be banned in towns and cities, and
b) all able-bodied citizens be assigned one month a year of digging duties, and
c) the month of digging to be paid at the same rate as the other eleven months of the citizens' yearsPosted 6 years ago # -
Not getting their food delivered to their front door and having to at least go down the stairs to get it from the van?
Not using lifts or escalators when there are legs and stairs available?Posted 6 years ago # -
@IWRATS if you get top spot whey not introduce compulsory track maintenance as per General Wade's four step plan?
I am feeling this is not going to go serious hence I would like to point out that the happy couple out walking in the hills in the Scotsman photo , whilst wearing decent anoraks on their top halves, are both wearing jeans on their leg depts. trendy black jeans are still denim. Was in Millets once with tall prof of criminology who also likes satire. He asked the Milletarian if they stocked any jeans? The man from Millets said Denim is Murder. Whilst not going that far, the first thing the scouts drum into you (other proto paramilitary youth groups available) is ye Cannae Wear Jeans when hillwalking, away hame and get a pair of shorts or something.
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...also to note in Japan the school kids also clean the school every day...
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@gembo
I have suggested that. It is quite obviously correct.
Every hillwalking career should begin with a day in plimsolls and wet jeans, picnic in a plastic bag.
Fond memories of my mum producing a pair of cut-down corduroy knickerbocker things for my early Cairngorm outings. If you say 'cut-down corduroy knickerbocker things' out loud you will hear it in your head all day.
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If anyone has cutdown corduroy knickerbocker things stuck as an ear worm this can be replaced by late McCartney numbers such as Temporary Secretary, or The Frog Chorus. What he lost in integrity when Lennon left him he made up for in catchiness.
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tall prof of criminology
I read that as tall proof of criminology and wondered what you were trying to say about the chap!
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Are there any photographs of these 'cut-down corduroy knickerbocker things' in use? The people demand to know!
I'm up for the digging as long as I can introduce the long-tail shovel to Scotland. Archaeologists here still use things like coal shovels which have no leverage. Give me a place to stand and a decently balanced long-tail and I can shovel the world.
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Rather than get groceries delivered or taking car to supermarket, get a rucksack and walk it. A granny trolley can be used if one is unable to carry a rucksack. Most folks in Edinburgh have a big supermarket within a mile. Also helps with over-buying and wastage.
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@unhurt
I'm guessing archaeologists frown on pickaxes? I always find long-tails spin in my (weak office worker) hands.
I think no photos of my early hill-walking days exist. Daguerreotype equipment was cumbersome and I was reticent.
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My mum is 71 and just got a granny trolley for just this reason - didn't want to drive to the Coop but finds carrying milk, wine and canned goods on her back or in bags difficult. Really they should market "non granny style" ones for other demographics...
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"or The Frog Chorus"
I occasionally get the tune of The Frog Chorus with the lyrics of Bulletproof stuck. Sometimes the Wombles' theme tune and When I'm Sixty-Four hijack each other.
"Really they should market "non granny style" ones for other demographics... "
Unfortunately only currently available for demographics with spare hundreds of pounds.
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Most folks in Edinburgh have a big supermarket within a mile.
I made a map: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ugm
Blue circles have a radius of 1 mile (this changes if you zoom in or out), and are centred on supermarkets. Smaller shops aren't generally included.
Normal caveats about crowd-sourced data apply.
EDIT: Another version with "convenience" stores included: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ugo
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@trixie I have a bike just for the shopping (stops me using any good bike for lugging two ortliebs filled with groceries). Used t combine with rucksack on bigger shops ( I just do more frequent smaller shops now)
@unhurt. My mum has birthday on Xmas day so she received the following from me, rather expensive Hermes perfume, rather expensive wide aperture wooden salt and pepper grinders, rather expensive olive oil and a very cheap shopping trolley. Can you guess her favourite present? I think combined with the flat pack guessing game when it was wrapped, its rather jaunty colour way and its thermo insulation to keep m and s products cool on the trip home et cetera
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Really they should market "non granny style" ones for other demographics...
I've been saying this for years. They are an excellent solution yet have a stigma.
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My mum is threatening to bling hers out. At some point in her sixties she discovered appliqué fake jewels. Now if you keep still too long you risk being "beautified".
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It's all right, chaps. The Scottish Government has turned us into Arnold Schwarzneggers.
Press Release from SNP Media
STRONGER FOR SCOTLAND: MORE PEOPLE WEIGHTLIFTING UNDER SNP
For immediate release: Friday 5th January 2018
A decade of SNP government has left Scots fighting fit – with a surge in weightlifting showing the party has been stronger.
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Alessi do them. My mum's is an alessi rip off for twenty quid off internet. groovy looped handle, big flower motifs, green and yellow colour ways.
I will look out for unhurt's mum in Scotmid with her blinged shopping trolley.
I feel the force on this one and the stigma will never be destroyed
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@frenchy: that map is brilliant.
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@rosie, is that article satire? They are using the same weak survey and have injected it with steroids, destroying their frontal cortex in the process?
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@unhurt
I'm granny age & carrying things other than in panniers on a bicycle gives me aches & pains. Would like a trolley on wheels - like your mum I'd like something jazzy. We're used to airport bags on wheels - why does everyone struggle with carrier bags?My sister who was lame after an horrendous road accident walked with a stick and always got something really bright and arty. She said people would patronise you less if you had something carved and ethnic looking.
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@gembo
At the present zeitgeist I have lost my ability to distinguish between parody and news, between truth and satire.Posted 6 years ago # -
@rosie, yes this is the malady of the age.
SNP output would be funny if they were not actually running the show. Would be same with any of the others except greens, who would be earnest and sensible.
@frenchy, big supermarkets only? Interesting lack of hyper market in south west though Tesco at Hermiston Gait missing? Or morrison's at the gyle? I need to check that. LIDL in Wester hailes too wee? And obviously Scotmid of Balerno which has everything you might need, just not at the time you actually need it.
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@frenchy, big supermarkets only?
Anything labelled on OSM as "supermarket". This seems to generally include smaller stores of national/multinational chains (Tesco "Metro" stores, for example), and smaller supermarkets like Lidls and Aldis.
All the ones you mention are on there.
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